United Technologies Corp. Message Board
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No one is irreplaceable
George David, Steve Finger, Joe Salary guy, Hourly people, whatever;
Everyone can be replaced. Obviously the people who pay George and Steve are satisfied up to this point. Are the salary or hourly people satisfied with these guys? It doesn�t freaking matter, we don�t pay them. This is America; Capitalism. You may not like it, but that�s the way it is.
If you are a member of the Union, you got screwed. Not by Sikorsky, but by the people you trust to protect your �rights as laborers� The health care thing is a lost battle. It�s a Corporate UTC thing and it's insurance in the U.S. and it won�t go away. The union people are just going to have to suck it up. Guess what? Everyone in the real world thinks it was a great package.
Now the union has successfully accomplished precisely what management hoped it would; to illustrate just how badly Sikorsky needs to examine it's staffing needs, and it is fairly obvious that they are grossly overstaffed with hourly employees.
I�m a salary guy and I�ve learned a lot in the first week of the strike. The first is the same mistake that Germany Made when they chose to bomb London in WWII. They wanted to intimidate the British but the result was totally opposite. The Brits stood together. The salaried employees are now cooperating with each other in a way I�ve never seen before. We are actually working together as a team. Our primary goal is to build safe helicopters and we�re doing it. Damn good ones. Maybe not real fast yet but we get a little better every day. They have to be the best because they are for American kids at war. Another thing that I have noticed is that we don�t have to be concerned with locking things up because there are no thieves in the building. The bathroom stalls are never full of people smoking, and there aren�t newspapers and paper towels all over the floors. No one is complaining. No one is screaming or blowing whistles. No one is wandering around aimlessly. No one is working to look busy. Everyone is busy working. I have been spending 10 � 14 hours a day on my feet and I love it because we are accomplishing something important. I feel privaleged to be working. I'm not alone either. No one is saying that they can�t stay or that they aren�t being paid enough for it. If you think that�s stupid well then, it can�t be explained to you.-
tsk tsk, temper temper.
I have no doubt the teamsters will have the last laugh and get all they are asking for. Yep, everyone knows that the result of a strike with UTC always ends in the union's favor, both immediately afterwards, and down the road.
Good luck, slug. I have no doubt with your positive attitude, you'll go far in life. Maybe one day, instead of shooting screws, they'll let you push a broom if you're real good. Aim high, brother. Rocco's there for ya. -
Gentlemen, Gentlemen: This tit for tat behavior serves no purpose. Bottom line... salary needs hourly and hourly needs salary or for those of you who's crying who went first... hourly needs salary and salary needs hourly. It's called team up. Both sides are guilty of such adolescent behavior.
GROW UP!!!! If you have nothing good to say.
SHUT UP!!!!!
We (sikorsky) are in a difficult situation. We need people with positive ideas and hope the right people are reading those messages to HELP in correcting this problem.
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"Yeah, but this idiot has a job and a paycheck..."
You are the lowest form of human. The Teamster's will have the last laugh. You on the other hand will always need to kiss someone's ass to keep your job. You pathetic slug. -
Yeah, but this idiot has a job and a paycheck...
Buuwaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! -
What did Rosa, Joe L. and the rest of the BS artists do for the Comanche and VXX, I must have missed that memo............
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What in heaven's name does that mean?
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Only the unions can organize.
What are you going to do hold a strike sign in front of your house all by yourself? -
I have recently retired from SA and can tell you that in my 36 years there I have met many Hourly people who deserve the respect that they have earned! Unfortunately there are others who have shown me that they and SA would be better off if they were elsewhere! There is a general misconception among many Hourly employees that the average Salary person is making "big bucks". This could not be farther from the truth than thinking that Salary people do not care about Hourly people. Just like in everything else in life, there is good, and there is bad. Compaints are being made concerning Heathcare costs of $331 a month. I would love to have that payment! When I left SA in 2004, my Healthcare costs were $339 a month, this was on top of the $7500 a year credit from UTC. In 2005 the $339 became $431, and in 2006 it became $633 a month. I'm 58 years old and my wife is 55. We are both in good health and seldom seek medical services. The point I'm trying to make is that something needs to be done on a National level or no one will be able to afford Health care soon. Meanwhile you Union people keep walking the line and showering your insults and vulgarities on Salary people who do not have the luxury of going on strike because ,hey, salary people all make 6 figures, right?
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Yo Dude! You don't have a clue on whats going on. So why not do us all a favor and shut your big hole. If we wanted to hear from an
Go Teamsters and thanks for fighting for the working men and women of this great country. -
"Freedom Fighters" What a joke. Might suprise you that there is no connection between being a freedom fighter in a real war and being a worker striking over 31 cents an hour in health benefits!!!!
What are the current workers asking for the union brothers who broke the trail for them and are getting killed with hugh increases in their health benefits! ANSWER: NOTHING, THIS IS ALL ABOUT ME!!!
FOr those of you involved in the noble cause of fixing the health care system in the United States by walking your picket line over peanuts an hour. Remember this! Getting the someone else, in this case UTX, to somehow to cover your additional 10% doesnt fix the system. No matter how noble the cause you think you are working for in fixing the healthcare problems, all you have done is attempt to get someone else to pay for your personal benefits. it does nothing to fix the system!!!!!
Has your Union Management given up their pay and benefits to be in solidarity with you while you are on strike? ANSWER: NOT IN THIS LIFETIME! - View More Messages
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