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  • andrewanka andrewanka Dec 3, 2006 8:29 PM Flag

    Reverse Split

    Well, you see, when a company has preformed as poorly as PFSW has, and the company is on the verge of being delisted unless it the stock price trades above $2.00 a share, then the reverse split is a bad thing.

    Sure the market cap does not change and no one is diluted as shareholders of a certain % of the company...but any company that has to go through a reverse split is usually "broken" in some way...thats not positive.

    What makes you think PFSW will not have to do a reverse split?

    You are also buying MCZ??? You like low gross margin companies that are loosing $$. Do you see some sort of event that would trigger a turn around for MCZ? Personally, I can not see a good reason to buy MCZ excpet that 3 new consoles have come out from the big 3 gaming companies which may lead to better sales for MCZ.

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    • flip20023@sbcglobal.net flip20023 Dec 5, 2006 7:15 PM Flag

      First off a company has to mantain a price of a dollar to avoid delisting, not $2.00. Second, a split or reverse split in itself is neither bad or good. Yes, usually companies that are having a hard time do reverse splits but an outperforming company could do a reverse split if it wanted.

      Second, I think PFSW's share price could easily climb over a dollar before the probationary period is over and therefore avoid delisting (and the reverse split). It doesn't matter to me if they split anyway. The performance of the company matters more.

      So what will make PFSW go up? Read my first post.

      Why buy MCZ? I think the release of the new game consoles will help all gaming related stocks. Last quarter they broke even and like all retailers they have their best quarter during the holidays. I like to speculate so I choose stocks like MCZ. Look at GME if you want a more expensive, less speculative play. I think MCZ will outperform GME though.

      Two companies with good earnings are SVL and DTLK?

      What companies do you like?

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      • Yes, $1.00 is correct, I was mistaken. Made a push for it today.

        Can you show me 1 or 2 examples of a outperforming stock that did a reverse split??? Yes a company could do it if they wanted but I can not think of a single reason why they would. Even if there is a reason, the logic will not apply to PFSW. They have grossly underperformed. And the basis for their reverse split is not to get delisted. these are in no way positive events.

        Not too many other speculative plays I would buy right now - Bought MALL - which I will sell shortly and FRPT.ob (bought after Rumsfeld's daughter was elected to the board) which has had a big run, have been unloading since $11.

        less speculative which I think are buys - ADM and ZUMZ

      • <<Yes, usually companies that are having a hard time do reverse splits...>>

        Yep, your insight is astonishing.


        <... but an outperforming company could do a reverse split if it wanted.>>

        Hmm, name one that has.

    • You guys still don't get it do you? In the game of investing, only the long term matters. Trading equity can get you superior returns over the long run only if you manage to work the information curve. That's what guys like SEI do. They have superior access to analysts who give them the heads up before making any changes. Otherwise, it really is a matter of luck.

      As for losses on my PFSW investment, it will be difficult to make money as my average costs is between $3-3.10 a share. But thanks for your concern.

      I am no hedge fund manager but have been an investor for the last 30 years, averaging a little over 20% a year. My knowledge of the market comes from exposure and reading the news. It's amazing how knowledgeable you become when you read the WSJ closely for 30 years. You do the math. Starting with $15,000 in 1974, that sort of returns would give me over $3,000,000 today. And 1974 wasn't that far back.

      The reason I don't trade or allow short term fluctuations to upset me is because it's only the long term gains that matter. If you have been in business or worked at a business before, you should understand that things don't change that quickly. What's more, it's expensive to trade. You guys are just making your broker rich. You can take my word for it. Then there are taxes. If don't sell, you get to defer the tax paid which further compounds your gains.

      Get the long term trend right, and you'll make moeny. For PFSW it is up. We should expect 20-30% annual gains for the next 3-5 years for PFSW. That's going to be far more than most other large cap companies in the S&P 500. But if you try to predict when it will happen, in general, you'll find yourself poorer as a result.

      Like I said before, when you trade, you take from them, they take from you, only the broker really wins.

      I don't plan to return to the board until Q4 results are released.

      Here is some advice if you care for any. If you want to make money, stop spamming this board with graffiti and start spending your time uncovering opportunity. You guys spend so much time doing this I wonder why you won't do your own research and act like real pros. Investing really takes on two dimensions - time and money. By wasting your time on this board, you are really squandering your opportunity to make money. Also, by allowing others with differing view points to say their piece, you might pick up on things if your mind is open enough.

      Again all the best. Try not to let the past occlude the future.

      The Alchymist
      The philosopher's stone,
      is good judgement,
      and the magic of compounding!

 
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