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  • cabogordon cabogordon Mar 17, 2009 10:00 AM Flag

    did cramer really say fas is going to 45

    is that even possible ? could it ever go to 45 ?????????????

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    • If you refer to longtimeskferswitcher's table, FAS will be over $45 when XLF gos back to $19.

      >>>>> XLF FAS FAZ UYG SKF
      NAV T-1 $8.06 $4.90 $42.54 $2.27 $144.84
      NAV now $8.26 $5.27 $39.32 $2.39 $137.19
      5% $8.67 $6.06 $33.43 $2.63 $123.47
      5% $9.10 $6.97 $28.41 $2.89 $111.13
      -5% $8.65 $5.92 $32.67 $2.60 $122.24
      5% $9.08 $6.81 $27.77 $2.86 $110.01
      5% $9.53 $7.84 $23.61 $3.15 $99.01
      -5% $9.06 $6.66 $27.15 $2.83 $108.91
      5% $9.51 $7.66 $23.08 $3.12 $98.02
      5% $9.99 $8.81 $19.61 $3.43 $88.22
      -5% $9.49 $7.49 $22.56 $3.09 $97.04
      5% $9.96 $8.61 $19.17 $3.40 $87.34
      5% $10.46 $9.90 $16.30 $3.73 $78.60
      -5% $9.94 $8.42 $18.74 $3.36 $86.47
      5% $10.43 $9.68 $15.93 $3.70 $77.82
      5% $10.95 $11.13 $13.54 $4.07 $70.04
      -5% $10.41 $9.46 $15.57 $3.66 $77.04
      5% $10.93 $10.88 $13.24 $4.03 $69.34
      5% $11.47 $12.51 $11.25 $4.43 $62.40
      -5% $10.90 $10.63 $12.94 $3.99 $68.64
      5% $11.44 $12.23 $11.00 $4.38 $61.78
      5% $12.02 $14.06 $9.35 $4.82 $55.60
      -5% $11.42 $11.95 $10.75 $4.34 $61.16
      5% $11.99 $13.75 $9.14 $4.77 $55.04
      5% $12.59 $15.81 $7.77 $5.25 $49.54
      -5% $11.96 $13.44 $8.93 $4.73 $54.49
      5% $12.55 $15.45 $7.59 $5.20 $49.04
      5% $13.18 $17.77 $6.45 $5.72 $44.14
      -5% $12.52 $15.11 $7.42 $5.15 $48.55
      5% $13.15 $17.37 $6.31 $5.66 $43.70
      5% $13.81 $19.98 $5.36 $6.23 $39.33
      -5% $13.12 $16.98 $6.17 $5.61 $43.26
      5% $13.77 $19.53 $5.24 $6.17 $38.94
      5% $14.46 $22.46 $4.46 $6.78 $35.04
      -5% $13.74 $19.09 $5.12 $6.10 $38.55
      5% $14.43 $21.95 $4.35 $6.72 $34.69
      5% $15.15 $25.25 $3.70 $7.39 $31.22
      -5% $14.39 $21.46 $4.26 $6.65 $34.34
      5% $15.11 $24.68 $3.62 $7.31 $30.91
      5% $15.86 $28.38 $3.08 $8.04 $27.82
      -5% $15.07 $24.12 $3.54 $7.24 $30.60
      5% $15.82 $27.74 $3.01 $7.96 $27.54
      5% $16.62 $31.90 $2.56 $8.76 $24.79
      -5% $15.78 $27.12 $2.94 $7.88 $27.27
      5% $16.57 $31.19 $2.50 $8.67 $24.54
      5% $17.40 $35.86 $2.12 $9.54 $22.09
      -5% $16.53 $30.48 $2.44 $8.59 $24.29
      5% $17.36 $35.06 $2.08 $9.44 $21.86
      5% $18.23 $40.31 $1.76 $10.39 $19.68
      -5% $17.32 $34.27 $2.03 $9.35 $21.65
      5% $18.18 $39.41 $1.72 $10.29 $19.48

      5% $19.09 $45.32 $1.47 $11.31 $17.53 <<<<<

      -5% $18.14 $38.52 $1.69 $10.18 $19.29
      5% $19.04 $44.30 $1.43 $11.20 $17.36
      5% $19.99 $50.94 $1.22 $12.32 $15.62
      -5% $19.00 $43.30 $1.40 $11.09 $17.18
      5% $19.94 $49.80 $1.19 $12.20 $15.47
      5% $20.94 $57.27 $1.01 $13.42 $13.92
      -5% $19.90 $48.68 $1.16 $12.08 $15.31
      5% $20.89 $55.98 $0.99 $13.28 $13.78
      5% $21.93 $64.38 $0.84 $14.61 $12.40
      -5% $20.84 $54.72 $0.97 $13.15 $13.64
      5% $21.88 $62.93 $0.82 $14.47 $12.28
      5% $22.97 $72.37 $0.70 $15.91 $11.05
      -5% $21.82 $61.51 $0.80 $14.32 $12.16
      5% $22.92 $70.74 $0.68 $15.75 $10.94
      5% $24.06 $81.35 $0.58 $17.33 $9.85
      -5% $22.86 $69.15 $0.67 $15.59 $10.83
      5% $24.00 $79.52 $0.57 $17.15 $9.75
      5% $25.20 $91.45 $0.48 $18.87 $8.77
      -5% $23.94 $77.73 $0.55 $16.98 $9.65
      5% $25.14 $89.39 $0.47 $18.68 $8.68
      5% $26.40 $102.80 $0.40 $20.55 $7.82
      -5% $25.08 $87.38 $0.46 $18.49 $8.60
      5% $26.33 $100.48 $0.39 $20.34 $7.74
      5% $27.65 $115.56 $0.33 $22.38 $6.96

    • Kramer?! RUN! RUUUUN!!! its gonna tank!

    • Shouldn't we be concerned with holding 5 and making it to 6 before worrying about 45?

    • yes long term 40s

      • 1 Reply to gutpile_2003
      • These are silly numbers. Here's a little perspective.

        Does anyone think housing will get better soon? In a year? In 3 years?

        Will the US consumer return with a vengeance? Will UE get back to below 6%?

        Will there be large investment companies who profit from a great growth in consumer spending and housing, assuming that it happens?

        Well, the consensus is that UE will get to 10%, and even if that doesn't happen, the current high level of UE will hamper any housing rebound for at least 2 years. No jobs, no mortgages get approved, no houses get sold.

        The only large banks left, who are not largely controlled by the govt, and MS and GS.

        Leveraged funds are trading vehicles, by their nature and construction. The person who posted 10 in 2 weeks at least gives you a reasonable target and timeframe.

        Getting to 40 would be a 8x increase. Implies a lot of growth in secondary financial institutions, like MET and smaller banks, because it's just not going to happen with MS and GS. Also, FAS would have to move fairly linearly to get there. Look at other leveraged funds that tracked things that moved linearly (DTO for one) vs ones that tracked indexes that moved variably (TNA, BGU, etc). The time decay kills you.

        Don't ever buy leveraged funds for a long term hold, trade them, either as day trades or swing trades. FAS may be a buy now, maybe not (I own some). But, I will sell well before 10, maybe before 6. There will always be another entry point, financials are not going up in a straight line, many would argue against much appreciation at all from here.

    • Of course it's possible, it's possible it goes to 1000. And that's no joke, the ETF opened over 58 in an already down market. As far as what Cramer says, I pay no attention to the retard.

 
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