just read an article where there are hundreds of large dryshippers sitting empty in the harbors, plus 7.58% of all home mortgages at least 30 days past due, plus commercial real is in the tank and ready to collaspe....and the stock market continues to rise.
Would a knowledgable long term investor explain this to me?
Quite simply, things are wayyyyyyyy better than they could have been and where they were headed, bottom line. it doesnt mean they still dont suck, but they could have been catostrophic.
the market has spoken
I may not be knowledgeable but I keep hearing the same thing: Money managers "must" buy in order to keep pace with industry/peer gains so for that reason the market will continue up until at least the end of the year.
That explanation is weak imo but that is what the talking heads are using for the market rise. I'm almost certain that people on tv are never wrong.
I like to see who the largest percentage decliners for the day are and then go to that company's message board and just kind of laugh at all the bagholders.
It's something I like to do
havetohowdo sums it up
Speculation. This is a 1999 mentality. The Federal Reserve is printing money and Goldman and the speculators are running all the money right into the stock market. No good trying to put it to use creating jobs, Bernanke and Geithner said a stock rally is all they care about.
I just read how trucking freight volumes are down 15% year-over-year so everything is down but speculators know the Fed will protect their money in the stock market.
I think it is all idiotic. Just printing money to the same exact speculators that were given free funny money before. How to fix "the crisis"? Give money right back to the same exact people!! WTF!!
a desparate scramble to get out of the dollar.
Oh yeah, accounting fraud and insider market manipulation too.
That will teach the average American to try to save their money and buy treasuries to fund our beautiful country.
The new paradigm: borrow more than you can afford, declare bankruptcy, make the other guy pay for your excesses, and create chaos to destroy the future of the USA.
We are in a bubble. The dollar is becoming worthless. Inflation is getting out of control. Congress doesn't buy groceries or worry about filling their gas tanks so we never include those numbers for inflation. All manufactured numbers in their funny reports to hide what is truly happening. As they print more and more funny money to keep wall street happy. Talked to some fund managers pouring money into the market. Saying they will get their bonuses his year. It's not their money at risk but the retirees and middle class who entrust them again and will again suffer the consequences. Will they sit back for the third time and watch everything they own dissolve or will they fight back this time.
the only thing that matters if the vehicle goes up or down; nothing else matters; what is really on bank's books? it doesn't matter; are we solvent as a country? it doesn't matter; is there a 50% uneployment rate? it doesn't matter;
the only thing that matters is if I can get you to buy something I own at a higher price than I paid OR get you to sell at a lower price than you paid;
This isreally the problem with this country. No one wants to roll up their sleeves and get dirty. Most money made is made pushing paper around. It looks like they cleaned out the longs now they want to clean out the shorts and put everyone back to work.
The jewish crooks ad Goldman sachs are stealing your money using computers to jump in front of regular traders to manipulate the markets.......it is cheating approved by goldman sachs. And jewish people, please do not say goldman sachs is not jewish. Stop using racism to hide behind the truth. I am a minority, so you can't use the race card you crooks. They have driven up the markets on lies, and manipulation. They are more evil than satan himself, because they stole your tax dollars to do it.
"They" is goldman not jews in general. I reread my post and it seemed anti-jewish. It is not, it is anti=goldman. My apologies if it came across otherwise. I just don't see why we cannot call a spade a spade anymore.
This rally is driven by large banks: JPM, GS, BAC. All these fraud entities are trading at bubble time price. JPM is almost 180 billion in market cap, GS is quite close, BAC is at 170 billion, even the bankrupt AIG is trading at 10 billion market cap.
Remember this, the FED injected 5 trillion $ into the banking system through auction, free money, fraud money and TARP. This market will explode pretty soon. you will see Dow at 5000, SP at 30000 fairly soon.