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  • di_vur_se_fi di_vur_se_fi May 3, 2005 8:14 AM Flag

    Breitbach

    http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050503/NEWS08/50503042
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    Loras College has received the largest donation in its 166-year history, a college official announced Monday.

    The gift from J. Paul and Frances Breitbach of Winston-Salem, N.C., provides $500,000 annually throughout their lives and $10 million after their death. The total gift will likely amount to $15 million or more, officials said.

    The money will go toward creation of a Catholic Thinkers and Leaders academic program, establishment of a Center for Catholicism in Corporate America and support for an existing graduate program in pastoral studies.

    J. Paul Breitbach, a 1960 Loras graduate, is a retired executive of Krispy Kreme Doughnut Corp.

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    • <<But what if you trash my house, steal my car which you wreck and beat me to the point that I do not fully recover? What can the justice system give me? Your incarceration and possibly some money.>>

      Finally a kindred soul!

      And for the longest time I thought I was the only one to be struck by the emptiness and impotence of what passes for human justice. To cite another jolting example, Timothy McVeigh took 169 (?) lives and we (the state in our name) turned around and took his life with a great show of solemnity. Satisfied, we congratulated ourselves by declaring that justice was done (and evil subdued.) What unalloyed absurdity! Where's the parity? One eye for 169 eyes and one tooth for 169 teeth?

      This, however, is arm-chair philosophy (or single-malt philosophy, in Joseph's vernacular,) something toward which Americans are famously contemptuous. If you ask a clever jurist in our justice establishment and receive no dissent on this matter, I wouldn't be surprised. The jurist might, nevertheless, add that the social system we have inherited defines justice the way it does with calculation and without pretensions. It does not promise to resurrect the dead, provide any kind of parity or, in general, turn back the clock for the aggrieved. In other words human justice is a very limited, very imperfect invention. If you want parity and full restitution, including resurrections and clocks turning back, you have to wait untill all are summoned before their Maker. [Even there I and my ilk are out of luck; we can't expect an invitation from an entity we do not think exists.]

    • Is it possible that you are not aware that the term is derisive, condescending and insulting?

    • <<If I steal from you, you should be able to recover from me what you lost and then some -- without triggering a war between clans.>>

      But what if you trash my house, steal my car which you wreck and beat me to the point that I do not fully recover? What can the justice system give me? Your incarceration and possibly some money.

      Chance has simply dealt me a bad hand and there is no possible recovery.

    • It sounds like thou speakest of blind justice (of course this is America, where blind justice is fun).

    • <<Not only is there no justice, there can be no justice>>

      I, too, find no way around my growing conviction about the ultimate insignificance and futility of the human experience (experiment?)

      I'm certain di_vur_se_fi was not thinking in cosmic terms when he asked about justice in your world. He only meant (my apologies for the presumptions) the run-of-the-mill kind of evryday justice to which we are all subject and which we resort to when we want to extract a little order from all the maddening chaos around us. If I steal from you, you should be able to recover from me what you lost and then some -- without triggering a war between clans. Something as pedestrian as that.

      Before we fade away into cosmic insignificance and futility, we are mandated to muddle through our so-called life on earth and as such, let us make it as tolerable as we can by resorting to a little everyday justice. Anyway, that's the idea.

    • <<I think he is just getting old and just trying to buy his way into heaven.>>

      It is a rich tradition.....and the Church and other religious institutions have grown rich on it too.

    • First stone?

      I didn't sell 1.8 million shares of kkd stock at prices determined by orchestrated lies.

      I did try to describe the stone as I saw it hurtling through the air.

      If that's a crime, so be it.

    • I think he is just getting old and just trying to buy his way into heaven.

    • Let ye be the one to cast the first stone. It is sad that blind justice is the only justice ye apparently distributes.

    • <<Is there no justice in your world?>>

      Not only is there no justice, there can be no justice. Chance is the guiding principle of all life, from birth and survival of the individual and species, to evolution of the myriads of species.

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