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  • ilap2004 ilap2004 Aug 10, 2009 12:45 PM Flag

    Health care bill end of life counseling

     

    I don't know where you're getting that I'm blaming doctors for anything Docjoe Pelosi. I don't know how you could get that from what I posted. I pointed out that the plan being considered pays doctors money to counsel seniors against trying to keep themselves alive. You obviously think that's fine. It should still be pointed out. But you/Pelosi don't want things pointed out.

    I also don't know where you're getting that the end of life counseling is about getting people to make a decision that would be applied in the event they become mentally unable to decide for themselves. It's about foregoing care immediately, while they are mentally functional. Most people with serious potentially fatal illnesses don't become vegetables. So you just inserted some kind of information that isn't there.

    Many people think the government trying to get the physicians to get people to agree to end their lives is highly inappropriate. You don't, D Pelosi. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But people should still know about it so they can judge for themselves. When people try to get this information out, they get attacked by you/Pelosi as people giving out disinformation as well as Nazis etc.

    I don't know where 21% comes from.

    The people who want to block attempts to rein in lawsuits are the Pelosi's/Obamas/Reids/Schumers of the world. What do the plans being considered have to do with lawsuits? I have read nothing to suggest that they would be curbed under any of the plans. So I have no idea what you're talking about there. Are you foreseeing nationalization of the drug companies, or is it some weird hallucination?

    Finally, as usual I have no idea what Rush Limbaugh has to do with anything, Docjoe Pelosi.

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    • "I also don't know where you're getting that the end of life counseling is about getting people to make a decision that would be applied in the event they become mentally unable to decide for themselves. It's about foregoing care immediately, while they are mentally functional. Most people with serious potentially fatal illnesses don't become vegetables. So you just inserted some kind of information that isn't there"
      Ilap, it can happen. My Mom has a serious mental illness and if she would not have made her Living Will last year , before she became even worse mentally, not one notary would have notarized her signature. I did the Living Will in Fl and brought it home to El Salvador. I had to take my Mom to the American Embassy to get it notarized and for her to sign it. Believe me, they asked her a lot of questons and I think they had doubt it she understood it. What made them except the Living Will was one question" What does this mean", her answer:" that Doctor´s can pull the plug , if I could never be like a living human being again". The let her sign, thank GOD. I think people should hire a Lawyer and get this done and when the time comes that you need to use it, of course you speak with the Dr and ask him what is appropriate. Also, Ilap Seniors can suffer from Dementia an not understand anything.

 
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