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  • musketeernumberone musketeernumberone Dec 21, 2009 5:41 PM Flag

    I LOVE this market!

    Today's big movers....

    Tech rules! USD

    Newsmakers rule! BUCY, MOS

    Speculative energy plays rule! WPRT, ARLP (the coal MLP -- it's em fogo, en fuego, on fire!), NEP...

    Brazil is in the dumpster for now... money coming out...

    Seriously, Doc, who cares what Obama knows about economics? Stimulus rules!!!! The trend is your friend and the trend is UP.

    glta... musk

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    • "Nothing in that statement talks about a direct threat to the US."

      http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/kfiles/b24970.html

    • Your denial runs so thick it blows me away.

      <In any case a threat directly to the US was never claimed as a justification.>

      Are you f**king serious?

      This is a transcript of Bush's 2003 State of the Union Speech, http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/28/sotu.transcript/

      "The United Nations concluded in 1999 that Saddam Hussein had biological weapons materials sufficient to produce over 25,000 liters of anthrax; enough doses to kill several million people. He hasn't accounted for that material. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed it.

      The United Nations concluded that Saddam Hussein had materials sufficient to produce more than 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin; enough to subject millions of people to death by respiratory failure. He hasn't accounted for that material. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed it.

      Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent. In such quantities, these chemical agents could also kill untold thousands. He's not accounted for these materials. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed them.

      U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents. Inspectors recently turned up 16 of them, despite Iraq's recent declaration denying their existence. Saddam Hussein has not accounted for the remaining 29,984 of these prohibited munitions. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed them.

      From three Iraqi defectors we know that Iraq, in the late 1990s, had several mobile biological weapons labs. These are designed to produce germ warfare agents and can be moved from place to a place to evade inspectors. Saddam Hussein has not disclosed these facilities. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed them.

      The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, had a design for a nuclear weapon and was working on five different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb.

      The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.

      Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production.

      Saddam Hussein has not credibly explained these activities. He clearly has much to hide."

      It was the uranium scare that got Valerie Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, so pissed off. He knew that was bs and when he went public about it. Karl Rove told reporters that Valerie Plame, a covert CIA agent, was fair game after what her husband did.

      Scooter Libby is in jail right now for covering up this matter. My guess is that he did so to protect Rove and Cheney. Ilap, I am curious as to why you think Libby is in jail. Was the MSM out to get him?

      You must be a higher up in the Republican Party. Whenever something doesn't go your way, you lie about it and question the sanity/patriotism of your opponent.

      It speaks volumes about your state of mind that you have to deny/lie to yourself about what got us into the war with Iraq in the first place.

    • "I still can't figure out where Fox News comes into this."

      Maybe it was this astute reply from Doc:

      "Ilap, your comments show you are intolerant of other religions and are xenophobic, illogical, and paranoid. IOW, you are the target audience of Fox news."

      To which I would only add that FOX news, besides seeking such a target audience, also probably causes otherwise normal people to gradually become "xenophobic, illogical, and paranoid", ie modern Republicans. (And I think Doc carefully chose the most generous and polite terms he could.)

      "BTW, what's your idea of solid news organizations?"

      UK's London Independent
      http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/107

      Mike Rivero's WRH
      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911security.html

      The Daily Show
      http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-june-3-2009/dick--uncut-

      The Onion
      http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784
      http://www.theonion.com/content/video/9_11_conspiracy_theories

      The Daily Show
      http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-may-21-2009/american-idealogues

      What Really Happened
      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911security.html

      The BBC
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2798679275960015727&ei=Jm9JS9DVKKK-rALCvOmRAQ&q=The+Power+of+Nightmares&hl=en&client=safari#

    • "Argument By Repetition (Argument Ad Nauseam): if you say something often enough, some people will begin to believe it." "By the way, constant repetition is not evidence for something."

      That would be news to the Bush administration. That is how they planted in the public mind a connection between the 9/11 events and Saddam Hussein. Seeing as how the Bush administration was a GALACTIC user of this tactic, do you still object to it?

      http://election.acousticrock.com/election.php

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTpZYH2x9-k&feature=related

      http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/bush-team-peddles-911-iraq-link-torture

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yTgbZSATTU&feature=related

      http://www.indiegogo.com/bush

    • "Text of Iraq weapons inspector David Kay's report"

      Yes, Dr. Kay is mentioned in this link too. But strangely, Senator Nelson is a more agitated by something else.
      http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2004_cr/s012804b.html

      It is apparent this instrument needs more frequent use:

      U.S.C. TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 § 1001.
      (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, WHOEVER, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
      (1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by ANY trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
      (2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
      (3) makes or USES any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.

      <And if Iraq did get the bomb, how were they going to deploy it? Federal Express?>

      "I don't know. I said "eventual". In any case a threat directly to the US was never claimed as a justification."

      Are you sure about that last part?

      http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/kfiles/b24970.html

    • Money coming out??Better check out VALE,GOL (upside is no joke),PBR will follow soon enough!

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      • Here is a chart of the brazil etf EWZ. Note the decline of 10% (from about $80 to about $72) that occurred during December. During this period, PBR declined from $53 to $46 - something over 10%...

        This was money coming out. This was the "funk" you asked about and which I explained above.

        PBR was upgraded over the weekend. Given that it's moved down while the price of oil has gone up, I would not be surprised to see a nice "catch-up" move this week.

        glta

    • <The first “no” will hit the ten million elderly who now rely on Medicare Advantage to pay for the care Medicare itself does not cover.>

      That's not going to happen. It should, but it's not. People with private insurance are told no all the time, but that's not the case with Medicare.

      <The first “no” will hit the ten million elderly who now rely on Medicare Advantage to pay for the care Medicare itself does not cover.>

      Medicare Advantage is the Medicare HMO model that is 15% more expensive than traditional Medicare.

      < In a payoff to AARP, Obama gutted this program in his bill, ending over $100 billion in federal premium subsidies.>

      AARP has pretty much become a de facto wing of the Democratic party. Yes, they make more off of their insurance ties than they do membership dues. But this is as much about cost containment as doing the AARP a favor.

      <The goal, of course, is to force them to drop Medicare Advantage and sign up, instead, for Medigap insurance — offered, not coincidentally, by the AARP — which provides less coverage at higher cost.>

      The "higher cost" line is the bs one. It costs less to seniors but more to taxpayers.

      <And last I heard, lots of seniors were cancelling their AARP memberships because it doesn't represent the memberships interests anymore.>

      And Republican Seniors probably should.

      <I don't think the change in coverage or mandates and potential for rationing will be as much a factor for the young and healthy....atleast not so much in the early years.>

      Quote from WSJ article, "WellPoint found that a healthy 25-year-old in Milwaukee buying coverage on the individual market will see his costs rise by 178%."

      And the tax issue keeps coming out, more beauts from the WSJ "Take the $2 billion annual tax—rising to $3 billion in 2018—that will be leveled against medical device makers"

      "That includes the payroll tax increase for individuals earning more than $200,000 that rose to 0.9 from 0.5 percentage points in Mr. Reid's final machinations."

      "Yet some 98% of the total cost comes after 2014—remind us why there must absolutely be a vote this week—and most of the taxes start in 2010."

      It doesn't surprise me that Obama's approval ratings have plummeted and most Americans are against this plan. I think more and more are going to get hacked off when they read and understand how badly this bill screws them.

    • WRT seniors and the new healthcare changes:



      <<Yet the political price is hardly neutral. Democrats who misguidedly vote for this monstrosity will face immediate political repercussions.

      The harshest of these backlashes will come from the elderly who will suddenly visit their doctors and be told “no” when they ask for therapies or treatments. The rationing of medical care will start immediately on enactment and, one hopes, the outraged phone calls will start to descend on those whose votes enabled it.

      The first “no” will hit the ten million elderly who now rely on Medicare Advantage to pay for the care Medicare itself does not cover. In a payoff to AARP, Obama gutted this program in his bill, ending over $100 billion in federal premium subsidies. These ten million voters will get the grim news that their premiums are going up and their benefits dropping early in 2010. The goal, of course, is to force them to drop Medicare Advantage and sign up, instead, for Medigap insurance — offered, not coincidentally, by the AARP — which provides less coverage at higher cost.>>

      http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2009/12/22/day-one-how-obamacare-will-alienate-americans/

      And last I heard, lots of seniors were cancelling their AARP memberships because it doesn't represent the memberships interests anymore.

      However, I would agree with you that young people will also be affected by this but I'm not sure that they are paying close enough attention or that there will be as much a backlash/ political price to pay as I don't think the change in coverage or mandates and potential for rationing will be as much a factor for the young and healthy....atleast not so much in the early years.

      But make no mistake...to the extent govt can't keep a lid on increasing costs (and most govts don't have a good record on this) to deliver healthcare, and they can't raise taxes, errr mandates in later years, they will have only one choice and that's rationing for the young as well at some point.


      Here's some poll talk from Rasmussen that sure seems to indicate that there may be political repercussions....just because of the process.

      "Barack Obama’s Approval Index Plunges After Health Care Rammed Through Senate"


      http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/12/oh-my-barack-obamas-approval-index-plunges-after-ramming-health-care-through-senate/

    • "intolerant of other religions and are xenophobic, illogical, and paranoid. IOW, you are the target audience of Fox news."

      :)

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