the masses are not ready for civil unrest and go to jail .
That is the only way ,,, i remember terminator making fun of Argentina for changing 4 presidents in a week ,but no applause for an entire country out in the streets to get what they wanted .
I stand with Ike. Pre-emptive wars are Hitlerian. When we attack a country that is not an imminent threat, or a country that has not attacked us, it is an unjust war and the people who order it are war criminals. If so-called American exceptionalism make any war we wage holy and righteous, then we owe a huge apology to the Nazi's convicted a Nuremberg.
<<< The only reason there is any truth in what you say is because the examples you site were "just" wars >>>
That is a subjective conclusion, justice is not the same for all sides.
Furthermore, that conclusion is being made with hindsight rather than foresight.
Other wars with a different outcomes may have been considered "just" or unjust also.
"Was the Iraq war intended to keep oil cheap?"
No Bush family member would EVER attempt such a thing. More likely the opposite intent - to keep oil expensive. Had Iraq developed steadily oil would be cheap today. I think someone decided that that was not to be, at least not yet.
But the question of motive could come up during the waterboarding of the neocons... :)
Ironically it would be easier to deal with the leadership in Iran if they were worse, like Saddam in Iraq. With Iraq invading neighbors and using gas on his own people there was a more compeling reason to intervene. Iran has not invaded any other country (yet), and while human rights are an issue its nothing like Iraq or even some other nations that are tolerated today. Suffice it to say the leadership in Iran seem to have the majority public support. All this could change if /when sanctions degrade their quality of life. Of course if Iran's leaders were to start a terrible and needless war the people would want regime change. If Iran is attacked and has to respond the leadership will have the moral high ground, as the public will see they had no choice.
"With Iraq invading neighbors and using gas on his own people there was a more compeling reason to intervene."
Iraq invaded Kuwait after getting permission from the USA. This is one of those basic facts of which Americans are breathtakingly and dangerously ignorant.
While some of the militants in Iran like N.Korea might think that they want war, it would be a situation they would deeply regret. The sad thing is people could be driven by propaganda, and acutally think they will get a better out come from a war.
It could easily go from bad to worse. I think the west (US and others), have to take care on how it deals with Iran. If the people of Iran see double standards or feel others simply want to exploit them its going to be difficult to get a more favorable regime established. Dont see any simple answers here. Currently one does not see any "arab spring" like situation in Iran, only galvanized people and nationalism. Short of outside intervention with installation of a puppet government, complete with dictator, i dont see how regime change happens.