You are talking about 2012 and calling others here "clueless"? Today Wall Street wanted to learn that Dot Hill had some impressive new OEM customer relationships to replace Net App's revenues as well as diminish HILL"s dependency on HPQ revenues. But there was no information or guidance of that kind. Instead, Hill management talks about "good opportunities". Wall Street doesn't like talk, it likes solid deals and improving numbers. Dot Hill management basically guided that 2011 numbers would be lower revenues and no profit. You are dreaming if you think Dot Hill can bounce from a no profit 2011 to .50 cents EPS in 2012. If Hill had products that could produce such good results then customers would be buying those products (now) and 2011 would be a much better year than what is forecast.