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  • fizrwinnr11 fizrwinnr11 Aug 9, 2011 3:35 PM Flag

    CNBC: The 10-year Treasury got down to 2.05% at one time today

    And if the charts that I'm looking at or correct, that takes out the 2.10% or so that was seen in early 2009 as the stock market headed towards its early March crash lows.

    10-year Treauries haven't been seen in at least six decades if even then. So here we go again with true once-in-a-lifetime stuff for at least most people.

    While the recent collapse in the market may not have quite reached bear-market levels, what is apparent is that yields on 10-year Treauries truly did crash.

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    • Starting from the site for real rates, how hard would it have been for you to find the Treasury site with nominal rates, fool?

    • I simply wanted to know how low the NOMINAL 10-year Treaury rate got to in early 2009. Do you think I care about inflation-adjusted rates and such? Also, I can't believe that inflation was any different on March 18, 2009 when the "real" rate was 1.28% than it was the previous day when the "real" rate shown was 62 basis points higher at 1.90%.

      If you don't mind, I'll just stick with the chart I was able to access that shows something in the 2.10 to 2.15% area as being the low.

      By the way, when the rates were being posted a couple of years ago to convince me that 10-year Treasuries really did get down to the low 2's, the actual data that I saw was indeed in the low 2's. I didn't have to settle for "real" rates when that wasn't at all what I was looking for.

      So if you or others were able to show me the actual rates two years ago, why can't you do the same thing now.

      What you did is analogous to showing me GAAP earnings when I'm only interested in non-GAAP.

      In summary, your site didn't show me a thing that I was looking for while the simple chart gave me a ballpark estimate of what the lows at the time really were.

    • I'm living in the past guys.

      Those were the days.

    • > do you think I was really concentrating all of that www. stuff?


      And how much intelligence does it take to figure-out that the government treasury web site would be www.treasury.gov?

      Anyone with an IQ over 70 would get that...

    • Yes - the site was indeed posted on occasion. But do you think I was really concentrating all of that www. stuff? I was too interested in the data.

    • When I punched out the year 2009 at the site you linked to, I got ridiculous numbers showing for the 10-year yields. On 3/18/09 for example, what shows is 1.28%, down from 1.90% just the session prior.

      That's just ridiculous as even in the most-volative of markets including today, you don't see much more than an 0.30% change whereas if I'm to believe what I'm seeing (which obviously I don't, there was an 0.62% change on 3/18/09.

      The the 10-year Treasury Bond infor was posted for me a couple of years ago, I remember very clearly that the low was in the very low 2's.

      This site is showing a number of sessions with rates below even 1.50% and that completely contradicts what I know I saw posted here a couple of years ago and it also completely contradicts the charts tha show the absolute low to be around 2.10%.

    • CNBS just said that 2.03% was the low of the day. And that indeed would be a once-in-a-lifetime thing if the charts I'm looking at are to be believed

      At least now I'll be able to say I remember the day when the lows were made. Because I still don't remember the sub-3% rates near the bottom of the crash. But 2.03% is something I'll never forget.

 
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