Let's be honest.
Our stock is overpriced
to the hilt. I love this company but let's get real,
PFE is trading at over 50 to 60 times 1998 earnings.
We should expect PFE to gravitate towards its true
investment value over the long term and I think it is safe
to say that it definitely is not 50 to 60 times
Your comments are appreciated.
It is my thought that those of us with scripts
should be stocking up on V. If I am right, and Pfizer
totally underestimated the demand, and pre-release
stockpiles are being used up, there could be a shortage on
Viagra. My doctor warned me in NOVEMBER that there would
be a run on Viagra that will produce a black-market
and lead to robberies at pharmacies. Has anyone on
this board any idea, what-so-ever, of Pfizer's
production capability for Viagra? 300,000 scripts equal at
least 3,000,000 pills per week, and that counts only
domestic sales. What is there production capacity??? I'm
sure they won't voluntarily tell. Inquiring minds want
Just read your post from this A.M. Very through
The refill rate will be
slower and undoubtedly a lot of the pills are "stacking
up" with people who love the drug and don't ever want
to run short. (I have two refills from different
pharmacies and don't ever plan to run low.)
this is going to take awhile for people to get used
to. I have had a second lady now tell me that she is
not sure that she likes the idea. The result is
noticible and interesting at first but then they start to
think about it (darn) ane wonder if the drug somehow
lessens the situation somehow or reflects on them. I uses
an "eyeglasses" and "makeup" metaphor trying to
assure her that it did not reflect badly on her at all
but I am not sure it is working and may be creating
bad feelings by continuing usage.
any similar problems? Female viewpoints?
I appreciate all the support in my debate with
Mark_Clem. I had to leave last night. It has been an
interesting debate but I do have other things to do. To those
who consider the exchange boring, sorry.
seems that most of the "facts" relied upon by Mark_Chem
are from a company which would be a competitor of
posts on their board. The undeniable fact, however, is
that PFE is still NO. 1!!
I'm out of here to
make a few honest bucks; gotta pay for the Viagra.
Here is my take on why it PFE price is holding
1 60%+ of stock is held by institutions. They need
to be somewhat conservative in their purchases.
The number of analysts rating Pfizer a stong buy has
DECREASED in the last 2-3 months.
3 While the Viagra
numbers look great, neither IMS, NDC or Pfizer can infer
what the true numbers will be. This is especially true
for Pfizer which has legal responsibilities to
I believe they are all still waiting
a-unknown side effects
b-higher than expected numbers of
known side effects
c-better sense of true usage.
Refills at this point could also mean that the same
person is refilling and then shipping them overseas.
Same for initial usage. Even if it is working for
someone, they may decrease there usage as the new pattern
of normal response becomes part of their daily
On the PLUS side it almost feels like a car when you
rev the engine but the car is in neutral - this is
why we are seeing high volumes. BUT when the
car/Pfizer is finally put into "Drive" then watch
Once enough people are comfortable that the numbers
are solid, that's when I suspect the price will start
to rise again with breaks for profit taking.
When will this be ? It could be early July when Q2
earnings are announced and management makes comments. If
Pfizer has a periodic analyst briefing before then and
management has good things to say that will help. Also, if
IMS or NDC make a statement on usage patterns that
could impact the price. And let's not forget overseas
approval which I think is still months
Finally, as many others have pointed out, Viagra is just
one drug (though it could be the BIGGEST) and once
the next drug is approved in June we will also see a
put it where it'll do the most good---on the
I'm so sick and tired of hearing
about your touted product....take it back where you
came from....where all those numbers
By the way, how many PFE posters clutter up your
I apologize to the loyal PFErs for
cluttering up their board.
I am concerned about pump and dump there too. I
am not in it for that purpose. After the expected
"pump" I expect the "dump" to take 25 % off the high but
SNTKY's price will still be higher.
expected fundamental developments - UK approval for
Invicorp or partnership with large pharma company - will
drive the price.
END OF TRUCE....
you to Pro Senetek's last three posts. Viagra simply
is not a cure all and does not help in severe cases.
As for the needle, local delivery is best in acute
or severe medical cases. Would you take a systemic
painkiller like an aspirin to have a tooth pulled? No, you
get a local delivery of Novacaine. The delivery
system is not an issue when you consider the magnitude
of the problem.
You also saw the post
explaining that Viagra's "overall 70 percent effectiveness"
means "somewhat less than 70%". Dr. Hackett's Invicorp
study reports 83% "erection suitable for sexual
intercourse". It appears that Invicorp has greater efficacy. I
think that when you factor Viagra's side effects into
the equation that 50% of the market is still open to
If you are on the SNTKY board again I
refer you to the following posts: 1577, 1726, 1769,
2183, 2214, 2225, 2260, 2299, 2442, 24560, 2466, 2569,
2573, 2589, 2596, 2612, 2788, 2849, 2850, 2876, 2886,
2945, 2947, 2962, 3096, 3224, 3349, 3365, 3370, 3435,
3531, 3534, 3965, 3975.
Nonsense! It isn't possible that Pfizer has
geared up adequate production to supply the domestic
market's demand. I believe that they are using stockpiled
Viagra that was manufactured before the drug's release,
and that they are as surprised as the rest of the
experts, who don't suffer from ED, by the exploding demand
for Viagra. This may lead to a shortage of Viagra
pills unless they have more manufacturing capability
that my doctor thinks that they have. And, they
haven't had any GLOBAL SALES yet. 300,000 sales per week
will pale in comparison to the GLOBAL SALES. THINK
I too am surprised that PFE hasn't continued to
rise in the past two weeks. I can't begin to
USA TODAY had a great pie chart last Friday
showing that Viagra has already captured about 96% of the
ED drug market. I believe it. No gel, and certainly
no injection, will appeal to users like the pill
will. Debate about STINKY and VIVUS or any other
company is moot, at this time, pending any truly new
I am a Viagra user. It worked all three
times that I used it, and without any noticable
side-effect. Of all of the people using Viagra and who have
posted to this board, only two reported any problem with
the 50mg dose, and one of those reported great
success with the 100mg dose. I suspect that the success
rate is actually much higher than 70%. I heard a
urologist from the University of Nebraska Medical Center
speak on a radio show for 1/2 hour and he stated that
Viagra is usually successful on even the toughest (I
almost said hardest) ED cases, including spinal injury
cases and parapalegics. However, Viagra does work only
with sexual stimulation. If the brain isn't
aroused--no erection. Some men may have tried Viagra who were
no longer being sexually aroused by their partners.
If a tree falls in the forest??? Some of the
failures may have been men of great age who hoped to
regain their virility but who may have lacked the other
hormones necessary to allow ANY product to work. I tried
MUSE, and all it did for me was cause me pain. No