Jude 1:3-4 Warns About Lawless Twisted People Within The Church
Take a close look at the wording of this passage. Jude, the half brother of Jesus does not say these people deny Jesus is Lord, they are in the church feasting with the brethren, instead they claim they are not longer bound to any moral law and turn grace into a license for immorality thus denying the clear and certain teachings and commands of the Lord, and thus denying and disowning Jesus the Messiah. Rest assured, they will get exactly what they deserve.
3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. 4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
I have held off posting because you are so prolific and so off center it is almost impossible to counter your blatherings since it seems that is your daily, continueous calling in life which is to post off center deceitful partial not to mention wrongly interpreted scriptures! Like the one above, you didn't even print or post the full scripture like v. 4 (who turn the grace of G-d into lewdness and DENY the ONLY LORD G-d and our Lord JESUS CHRIST) How you can say these men were christians is only amazing to me and shows your lack of understanding the word or your deceifullness to try and lead others astray. You almost fit the description of these verses only in a more cunning way. I get you want to read the Torah, so go read it but trying to drag others away from the full bible and the words and teachings of Christ is despicable at best!! I don't like posting like this but your consistency and spiritual arrogance demands it of me. Have at it if you will but most on this board are aware of your constant barrage of falsehoods. If you want to be Jewish then be Jewish but make sure you keep every dot and tittle of ALL the law and not just the big 10!
Surferjoe, do you always fly off the handle without even reading the person's well thought out post. You are not teachable surferjoe because you already know it all and have been spoon fed your doctrine by men with their own agenda. The Raven has no agenda except truth. Read the passage surferjoe, Jude is warning about people in the church who feast with you, pray with you, fellowship with you, yet they pervert the grace of G-d so that they can disobey G-d's Law and get away with it. Wake up, it is still happening today! They reject G-d's Law and this is exactly where things are headed in the last days, a rejection of G-d's Law and a denial of the "Lord Of The Sabbath". A strange title don't you thing for someone you claim abolished the Law. Yet this is what He called himself.