k man we have been waiting a long time for this company to turn around. cost cuts are great but they won't lead us anywhere with out sales growth. sales must show some signs of growth in the q3 over q2. sales were flat from q1 to q2. cc must also give us some idea of q4 sales. sales will not be good enought to be flat q2 to q3 to q4. give us a view to 2008. this very important to the company and its shareholders.