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George W. Bush is the worst by a landslide. I'm not a big fan of Obama's policies, but you can't judge his presidency in a vacuum. He came into office with the worst economy since the 1930's, because of the Bush/Cheney belief that less regulation/no regulation, and lower taxes would juice the economy and make tax revenues to the government soar. Instead, we have a Great Recession and collapsed tax revenues to the government. Superman could be president and we'd be in a mess.

Do you actually think the economy, and the deficits, would be any different under McCain? If it's by cutting taxes, that's partly what got us into this deficit mess. The proof? Tax revenues as a % of GDP fell to lows in 20005, not seen since the 1950's. The Bush tax cuts did nothing to create jobs, and stimulate the economy. Most of the jobs created in the early Bush years were due to the housing bubble.

The principle that the less deregulation the better got us a financial meltdown on Wall Street and in the mortgage market, and now an economic meltodown in the Gulf of Mexico.

I don't believe that either the Democrats or the Republicans have proper policy, but facts are facts: Bush and Cheney are responsible for the mess today. I don't believe Obama can get us out, but going back to the same policies which is what McCain would have done, would not have given any benefit either.

greed is good, nappy is great!

Obama does not have the best interests of Free Americans and people that have paid their bills on time and saved and invested. He doesn't care about Americans getting their jobs back. I point to what he's done about the oil spill. Not his words. He won't allow Dutch ships to help in the clean up(they offered to help on day 3). Miles of Boons are in a Maine warehouse waiting to be pick up. His solutions are to quadrupple the tax on a barrell of oil. Take control of BP's money, without due process.And suspend drilling for 6 months. All those business that have billions of dollars invested in the rigs will have to do something with them, so they will be moved to other countries. Those oil rigs support directly and indirectly 1 million jobs. Thats going to be gone. Brazil is the country that need the deep oil rigs and that oil co is owned by George Soros. He's the big benefactor. So who's corrupt and should be in jail. Obama.

Bush and Cheney look awfully good in comparison that bag of sh*t we now call a president.

At least Bush is an American, unlike our Communist comrade, bowing to muslims kings.

I personally think that Obama should be impreached. He lied to the american public in order to get into office. Virtually every major item he promished he has broken. These were not little lies, but fundamental lies that are 180 degrees from what he promised. How can a person get away from lying so much in order to get elected?

Michelle is just as bad. She said that Obama was going to fundamentially change the country, including our traditions and our history. Well, she was right. Obama is changing our country. He wants a socialist society with the muslims in authority. How can you believe otherwise. How can we just sit back and watch the destruction of everything our country stands for.

Obama and the dems have to go. We must vote conservatives into office or we will quickly see our freedoms and prosperity get wiped out. If you don't believe it, just look what has happened since he has been elected!

Obama is the worst as not only is he doing a bad job on every issue, he is also trying to change the US from a Republic, free market country to a socialist country that wants power within the governement, not the people.

How can you get any worse than that? Bush made some bad mistakes, but he didn't try to change the country fundamentally. I personally want to keep my freedoms. Those that say Obama is doing a good job, just doesn't understand how evil and ruthless Obama and his team is. You are oblivious to the dangers he is bringing to our wonderful country.

>>"W" bush has to be the worst ever.(war crimes)Prez. Obama is doing a good job."

What??? Are you smoking crack? The guy is a freaking piece of sh$t. He hasn't kept a single promise, including closing Guantanamo, ending the war in Iraq, addressing the hordes of illegal immigrants that are taking jobs from Americans, is spending money like a drunken sailor in a whore house, raising taxes, attacking American businesses with ridiculous taxes, restrictions and power grabs. Cap and Trade will kill manufacturing in America. He doesn't care, he bows to the King of Saudi Arabia, his fellow muslim brothers. Bush may have been one of the worst Presidents, but Barack has him beat by a long shot. The guy is one of the greatest speakers I have evern seen, very smooth, sauve, confident and collected, but take away his teleprompter and he is a stuttering bumbling buffon. Looks at the clowns that he surrounds himself with. Fudge packers like Barney "running a male prostitution ring in my basement" Frank, Charlie Rangel, Nancy "Princess" Pelosi, Harry Reid....need I go on with the countless clowns he has that don't pay taxes or got run off because they idolize Mao.....when is the last time you saw him stand in front of the American flag at a press conference instead of that awful gold sheet? The man is the epitome of everything that is un-American.

Why isn't the White House covered in solar panels? Why isn't the lawn convered in wind turbines? Why does Air Force One use jet fuel? Why does his entourage drive large Suburbans instead of small hybrids/ What a hypocrite.

I own KMP and don't worry too much about day to day movements in price. I do worry about the idiot President changing tax laws trying to find more ways to raise money so he can give it hand over fist to those too lazy to work for it, or so he can buy more votes by continuing entitlement programs that are unfunded and unsustainable. The media can try to spin doctor it as best they can, but history will not smile on B.H. Obama.

There are alot of Americans who are delusional They think Rangel is a honest man,BK hasn't lied to american voters,Blog didn't want to sell the senate seat, the money in Jeffersons refrigerator was to buy candy for poor children,the american public wanted the health care bill by a wide majority, BK said health care bill would not raise premiums,illegal alien have a right to be in US, entitlements are for everybody and loweres taxes,and California and NY have AAA bond ratings

I happy to finally have one line that has turned political to talk about the state of the country and I offer this premis.
Each major city of each major state in population is run by Democratic mayors. NYC(really a democrat) LA- SF, Jeresey City-Newark,Philadelphia.St Luis,Chicago,New Orleans,Miami,Detroit.Baltimore. What do each of these cities have in common Large Black,Latin,Unions run amok,high welfare,, union entitlements, high taxes and most responsible for destroying their state by state union pension costs-welfare costs-illegal alien costs-prison costs-ETC ETC So to continue their seats these democratic mayors elected by unions,welfare,black and latino must continue to feed their voters. Until these cities have their machines change the country will NEVER be whole again.
The only hope will come when the governers become republican and change the funding for the cities ala Christie,mayor Guiliani and such. The irony is who has lost their jobs,houses,hope for future. The vast majority who voted in this fraudulent president . They deserve what they got and will get.

How could you say Obama is worse then george w really just think how we got to this mess!!!!

Bought KMP at $52, bought ford at $3 and again at $2. I'm doin fine. Dow 6,500 to dow 10,000! Stop crying.