We make an important contribution to this
company. It's butt heads like you that cause these types
of lawsuits. Our jobs are hard enough without having
to deal with sexists like you.. get a life and go
get some help..
But he'll sell mufflers and tail pipes to these
individuals if they pay list price and have the work done by
And no girls in meaningful positions in the
Well......the only meaningful position is
on all 4s.
Little_Noah seems to have been busy at other
boards, slamming and harassing people. Go to the search
at the bottom of this page, type in his name and
search under authors. You will see that he is a
"little-NOWHERE" with nothing better to do!!! The following is one
of his most asinine posts.
(Advantica Restaurant Grp.)
No Spicks or
Wops at the Counter
Dennys knows how to run a good shop and the way they run
the people is just fine by me and all my
Before you come in for a free birthday lunch, you
know for sure if you deserve it at Dennys.
Dennys will survive and prosper.
Your message was well stated and insightful. A
lot of employees and former employees see their
company as you do. Thanks for weighing in. I was offended
by the cruel and rather stupid reaction your note
received by someone; I would ignore it. Thanks for the
The Tenneco Board met in Greenwich yesterday. They
are in an extremely awkward position -- they forced
Dana in July to announce that he would have a
strategic plan to make public in October, and, of course,
it's 1999 and no plan, while all the rumors are
swirling around. The Board has to confront weak
leadership, compounded and made much worse by his strange
dependence on Stecko. To fire Mead, while desirable, would
underscore the chaos. To continue obviously isn't working.
Awkward was perhaps too kind a word.
So you little world was shaken up some when
people around you got laid off. And that apparently has
changed you attitude about the company...to the negative
You cannot do a really good job where you are when
you profess to hate the company that employes
Do the honorable (and smart) thing --- actively find
another job and get the hell out.
Do daly about it
either....you are going nowhere with your current
Or just quit and see what life is all about with no
job. You may lose weight. When you finally see the
light, you will be motivated again.
maggot............life is short.
I can't agree with you more. Tenn
has to identify new markets in order to survive .
They need to identify Niche markets and leverage
It has been said over and again Evans
does not have a hnadle on the automotive industry.
Dave Verbeeten has either resigned or been let go as
I'm sorry, but those of us who are not pleased
with Tenneco are not all malcontents and freeloaders.
Here's my story:
I've been with Tenneco for over 6
years. For the first 4, I wanted nothing but to stay
with Monroe (that's how we thought of ourselves... the
Monroe family) and to do my best for the company - for
the entire length of my career. I was proud of
working for Monroe.
Then came the layoffs. I bet alot
of you reading this know exactly how we felt seeing
quite a few of our coworkers being let go. It wasn't a
pretty sight. At the Monroe facility there were police
officers brought in to help with the layoffs. An HR rep,
the lucky fella's manager, and 2 Monroe county
sheriff's officers to stand guard while personal belongings
were packed, and then escorted to HR and out the door.
No goodbyes were allowed. The people who were layed
off were treated like they'd committed a crime. And
for those of us "lucky" enough to have our job,
seeing the company to whom we'd all been so loyal do
this to it's employees - well, let's just say that it
was a traumatic experience. I haven't felt the same
about this company since then. The loyalty I felt
towards Monroe hasn't extended to Tenneco - the parent
company. I'm no longer proud of who I work for.
still here, still doing my best, but my motivation for
doing my best isn't the same. I do it because I can do
no less, I still have pride in the job I do, but I
haven't remained at Tenneco out of loyalty. I've remained
because I'm still learning in my position. And when the
time comes, I'll leave. Hopefully to a company who has
a little more respect for the people in the
trenches, but that may be a bit naive.
That's my story -
perhaps not written eloquently. Don't be so quick to
judge those of us who no longer believe in the company
we work for.
I think you missed the point of my comments.
That's precisely what I meant by Magic Minds and and
messing with the numbers vs. managing the business. It's
true that Stainless Steel has an effect on the current
replacement rates for aftermarket exhaust. Which means that
the business is not going to see tremendous growth
like it was being passed off as. It means an
adjustment in strategy and approach to the market. It means
we do have to change tremendously the way we
operate. The people who new this couldn't get the message
across because on one wanted to listen in Mahagany Row.
The money machine broke and actions over the last
several years sure hasn't done much to address the issues
and fix the problems.
In a mature market you
gain and grow by taking share away from the current
competition and shutting out any new starts in the business.
You also need to look for NEW PRODUCTS and new
innovative ways to get to the market. We have always
suffered from an arogance, until we find out that there
are other options for our customers. And then we
attempt to recover by a fever pitch of activity.
As far as Art goes - he did some bad and was crude,
but he did CHANGE the way we operated. I for one
think he did some good as well (even though I didn't
think so at the time he was at the lead). Hind sight is
a sobering thing.
Time will tell. WE HAVE
BEEN HERE BEFORE. This business is cyclic. Remember
when the advent of the converter in 1975 was going to
end the aftermarket forever. The replacement market
for converters in the aftermarket is now one of the
potential bright spots.
That's my opion - you can
take it or leave it.
Art Hawkins --- naahh
You are also wrong
on the A/M point about new car sales. The problems
stem from the load em up-short term approach that is
residually left from the Monroe sales and marketing
approach. Remember, the "gold jacket goofs" were commission
paid. So, the only way they knew how to sell was,
"Hello Mr WD please buy 10 truckloads in March, June,Sep
and Dec (end of the quarter) for an extra 10% off. We
Monroe guys are real studs. Right.
8.5 years on
an OEM exhaust system does not help the continually
When combining the dwindling
aftermarket facts with the unbelievably ridiculous expenses
left behind by the Jay Burkhardt, "Outspend the
industry average by 3X and call myself a marketing genius
approach" ..... what kind of earnings results would you
PS Evans is history, the remaining guys are going
thru shell shock or are basically clueless.