Well it does sound like you are part of the Lilly crew and that you have some serious jealousy issues with Shire. As far as sales forces go, it sounds like you must work for Lilly and if so, that would explain your frustration with Shire. I must say that I don't have the inside scope to what the Shire Reps are doing every day and what they are saying every day about Lilly/Strattera. All I know is what I see in my day to day practice and I what I have so far is Lilly 0 and Shire 1 (for ADHD). Come on, how great will a failed Anti Depressant be?