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  • miska598 miska598 Sep 19, 1998 4:45 PM Flag

    Join me..........

    it's not about "dirt" it's about fucking
    lying...

    Clit-man hasn't brought us shit. He's a figurehead, the
    Republican Congress is responsible for any econimic
    growth.

    As a FIGUREHEAD we need to show the world that we
    are a nation of laws, not men.

    Clinton and his
    band of liars need to go.

    Greg

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    • If the President is only a figurehead and the
      Republican Congress deserves the kudos, Reagan's
      accomplishment was a sham and the Democrats who controlled the
      Congress at the time were responsible for the "great
      economy" under Reagan? Taking this further, when both the
      presidency and the congress were under Republican control
      and the the deficit was zooming out of control into
      orbit, the Republicans were responsible? Why were the
      Republicans crowing about what the President had done for the
      economy then?

      Also, if the president is just a
      figurehead, why blame him when the market shows signs of
      crashing? Would it not be fair to blame the Republican
      controlled Congress? Those who really paid attention noted
      that when the damage was not as great as expected from
      airing the tape of his grilling by the Starr Chamber the
      market breathed a sigh of relief and regained over 180
      points. One would think, that if he's so ineffectual and
      has no influence over the economy because he's but a
      figurehead, the markets would care not one whit about his
      fortunes...

      You cannot have it both ways.

      As for lying
      under oath...the deposition regarding Lewinsky's
      consensual relationship (sexual or not) should not have been
      allowed in the Paula Jones sexual harrassment case, in
      the first place. As such, it should not have been
      admissible and, therefore, stricken from the record.
      Further, according to none other than a former Special
      Prosecutor, Lawrence Walsh, simply lying under oath does not
      constitute perjury, unless the lie is material to the case,
      which it wasn't, especially, given that the case was
      thrown out of court.

      Ergo, Starr, who had been
      consulting on and coaching attorneys in the Paula Jones
      case, prior to assuming the mantle of Special
      Prosecutor should have had no legal basis for dragging said
      deposition into the Grand Jury.

      Sophisticated people
      know a witch hunt when they see one and will not
      tolerate it beyond a certain point. Gone are the days of
      Joe McCarthy. Hello, Ken Starr.

      Keep your
      drapes closed and spray for bugs. This hypocritical and
      political hack, in search of the truth, couldn't see it
      being murdered by his former Tobacco Industry clients
      who lied before Congress and the country. Where was
      his zeal in pursuing them?

      If Henry Hyde was
      youthful at 41 when he started being indiscreet during a
      four year affair and ended it when he was 45(?), the
      President was not youthful at 48? Not that that
      extra-marital affair was Hyde's first or last, if one is to
      believe the daughter of his erstwhile paramour.


      Orrin Hatch is oblivious or turns a blind eye to the
      rampant polygamy and teenage wives in his home state,
      draining millions of tax payer dollars for their welfare
      state.

      Dan Burton sired a bastard, who probably required
      state assistance at one time or another.

      They
      call it intimidation when their own hypocrisy is
      bared. Is it not intimidation for the baring the same
      about the president?
      What's good for the goose ought
      to be good for the gander.

      Some of these
      Republicans, but not all, think nothing of intruding into
      people's personal lives but feel that corrupt corporate
      boardrooms that sustain them with political contributions
      should be sacrosanct in the interests of a free economy.
      No morals for business but tarnation and hell fire
      for the private citizen.

      Apologies for the
      rant and being off topic...but more people need to
      respond to political sniping or allow hypocrisy to reign
      supreme...on either side of the aisle. Or people ought not
      bring up off topic issues and not expect
      rebuttals.

      Meanwhile, the time does seem ripe for buying more Berk-b...

      • 4 Replies to cashewly
      • Just want to add my two cents. In some small way,
        I think President Clinton had some decency in that
        he refused to testify until Ms. Lewinsky and her
        mother had a guarantee of immunity. It took all these
        months -- until Aug -- for the Starr team to give them
        immunity and then things moved. I gather Ms. Lewinsky's
        mother is guilty of other offenses besides lying to the
        grand jury about her daughter's relationship with Mr.
        Clinton. Ms. Lewinsky simply talked too much and Ms. Tripp
        recorded it all. But just how much should one believe!

      • You are certainly right that people need to speak
        out - but I think your arguments are all
        wet!!!

        This issue is sexual harrassment, lying under oath,
        even to the grand jury, using other people - and I
        personally believe Paula Jones story after seeing Clinton in
        action with his continuous lies. Paula Jones has a right
        to try to prove her case by showing a pattern of
        behavior. The cost and incredible pain of the last few
        month was not due to Starr but continued because of
        Clinton's inability to be truthful. I could say much more
        but I do not think this is the place to do so. Just
        felt compelled to say there is definately another side
        to the story then the one you published.

        On
        to the purpose of this board - recently bought
        several shares of b - down from where I bought it but I
        believe in BRK and one of the reason I am happy to be in
        is that I intend to go to the next shareholders
        meeting. Sounds like one of the best!

      • Cashewly, what a bore your ranting about Clinton.
        On the other hand, 15 of President Clintons
        bodygaurds have mysteriously died or been found murdered
        over the past 6 years. Also, 79 individuals associated
        with Clinton have died or been found murdered over the
        past 6 years. But whose counting,eh Cashewly????

      • where did you ever hear me give credit to Reagan
        for the economy? his strong [figurehead] presence
        prompted Congress to "do the right thing".

        screw
        the deficit.

        whether is should have or should
        not have been, the testimony stands and Clinton is a
        known proven liar.

        Clinton isn't a "private
        citizen".

    • <<it's not about "dirt" it's about fucking
      lying...>>>
      You are absolutely right!! Clinton should get fired
      for lying under oath. But for holding back on 8 out
      of 10 blow jobs, I give him the Golden Rubber Award.
      What the hell was he trying to prove?

      And
      Low-in-ski?... she's a slut! Too bad she'll make millions on
      books, videos and cigar commercials.

 
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