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  • lloydvon2003 lloydvon2003 Jul 3, 2008 12:56 PM Flag

    Unbelievable!

    How does a company with the fundamentals and growth that EJ has continue to suck with it's share price. This company has 75% growth from last year. 30% or better is considered good. Well, we've now broken support and who knows where the bottom is. It's hard to say when it will be a good buying opportunity. It's hard to have patience when your losing money. IBD say's cut your losses when a stock loses 8% from buy point. I didn't listen. Now I'm in it for the long haul. This sucks.

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    • <http://ir.ehousechina.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=210223&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1170502&highlight=>

      This PR is so contradictory that it is "unbelievable" as well. Although sales volume and sale prices are less than last year's, the company says it will still meet its revenue and growth targets.

      About the only part I can believe is the warnings in the last paragraph.

      Disclosure: Holding 1000 shares @ 13.38 average

    • I don't think what is happening is rational. Nervous sellers are causing the continuous slide. Over the course of a year, the lowest the stock has been is 12.97 in 8/07 and 10.76 in 3/08. Anyone who bought at these prices has no reason to sell since the current price is not far from their purchase price. If you bought in the 20's or 30's, why sell now and cause the slide to deepen. My thinking is most of the sellers are out and the tables should turn up. But what do I know.

    • 上海楼市明显“拐弯” 降价或成为唯一突破口

      来源:易居臣信行销部市场研究中心
      日期:2008-7-3

        今年上海楼市明显“拐弯”,无论是供应、成交还是成交金额均创出2006年以来新低。

        昨日(7月2日)记者获得统计报告显示,今年1-6月上海商品住宅的总供应量为618.04万平方米,低于2006年上半年的943.84万平方米和2007年上半年的699.79万平方米;总成交量为525.9万平方米,不但低于2006年上半年的851.32万平方米,甚至比2007年上半年的1043.63万平方米萎缩了近一半;总成交金额则为739.61亿元,也低于2006年上半年的810.63亿元和2007年上半年的1037.37亿元。


        “供应量回落不大但成交量大幅下滑,今年上半年楼市重见供过于求,预计夏季楼市将会进一步低迷。”佑威房地产研究中心主任薛建雄认为。“考虑到价格近两年来大幅上涨,要保持既往的成交量已无可能。”分析师也表示。


        不过由于去年房价猛涨,加上近期市区一些高档楼盘集中成交的拉动,使得上半年上海商品住宅的成交均价攀升至14026元/平方米,比2007年上半年的9940元/平方米上涨了41%;同时,上半年共成交了45257套的上海商品住宅套均总价达到163万元,比2007年的128万元涨了27%。


        此外,上半年上海商品住宅的套均面积为116.2平方米,比2007年的124.6平方米又缩小了6.8%,表明“70-90结构调控”政策正在起效。


        对此,市场人士表示,现在上海外环以内很难再买到163万元以下的新房,只有相对富裕的家庭才能买得起市区新房,这将迫使更多家庭搬到外环周边区域。而高房价的压力也使购房者都对住宅产品提出了更高要求,原先一些相对粗放型的产品已经因品质难以支撑去年的价格上涨而出现价格下跌。


        而在二三级楼市联动愈加明显的上海,二手房市场也是一片低迷景象。近日有来自中原地产上海公司各门店的统计显示,6月份上海二手房市场成交量比去年同期下降了30%至40%,成交价格也呈平稳有降的趋势。分析师表示,随着投资者的淡出,从生活出发、以实际品质论高低的自住型理性购房成为主导力量。上海中原研究咨询部所做的问卷调查还显示,超过一半的受访者表示还将继续观望等待。


        综合来看,一些机构预测,在房价大幅上涨后以及紧缩的宏观调控政策下,房地产市场上的投资和投机需求受到抑制,购房者产生了浓厚的观望情绪,如果销售面积不能保持稳定甚至继续下滑的话,平衡就会被打破,必然会在房价上有所体现,而如果房价继续保持高位运行,则调整的时间会更长。

      • 2 Replies to gyang2001
      • you may read Chinese, but you don't have enough brain to analyze and value stocks.

        if you know anything about the real estate market in China, you should have used the situations in Shenzhen for your scare tactic!

        EJ is merely headquarted in Shanghai, but doing business nationwide in China!

        Real estate is LOCAL, yet you are using the method analyzing real estate in Allen Town, PA to analyze real estate demand/supply in NYC! That's idiotic at best!

        Average, even affluent consumers in Shanghai & Beijing have looooooooooooooooooooong been priced OUT OF the market, just like NYC.

        even with the little speculative bubble burst in Shanghai and Beijing, it's mostly on the highend, and average citizens there are merely dreaming if they think prices would come down to the level they can afford.

        More importantly, it only shows you have NO idea as to how affluent Chinese are and their buying power.

        EJ as stock, is no US builder stocks. The economics and dynamics are different. China/Shanghai housing market is NO US housing market, any shape or form.

        Slow down, may be, but that doesn't make EJ worth less than $10.

        anyone with a brain knows EJ was shorted down to this level, if you are idiot enough to want to continue to short (like today!), that's fine, but don't pretend you know anything about real estate in China.

      • Interesting

    • I also feel trapped here. Supposedly, the company is solid and the terrible slide in the stock price is attributable in part to manipulation, but that doesn't make the losses any easier to bear. I'm sorry I didn't jump ship long ago, but in this bear market, cutting your losses at 8% would not leave you with many holdings. Maybe that's a good thing.

 
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