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  • audiophule audiophule Mar 20, 2008 2:23 PM Flag

    QMAR since buyout

    Doing nothing or buying dips was the way to go so far: http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=EXM#chart1:symbol=exm;range=3m;compare=qmar;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;logscale=off;source=undefined

    Buyout date: Jan 29th. QMAR flat or down a little, EXM down about 15%.

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    • Get... first you were arguing that there is no new technology in shipbuilding... that yards have been using the same technology for 30 or so years.

      You appear to have educated yourself somewhat on the matter and now appear to have accepted that they ARE using new technology. But to attempt to "win" your debate with Audio - or at least not lose your debate - you're now arguing that the new technology is not being used on in-process ships.

      That seems an odd line of reasoning. Why would a yard acquire technology and NOT use it to expedite existing work? Are you thinking they have all these fancy new (and expensive?) tools just sitting around waiting for the next keel to be laid before putting them to use?

    • You first. I post links and numbers, you just rant and rave. Bet you won't, though.

    • 2-3 years to build a ship? LOL! Not even freaking close. 7 months to build a Cape.

    • ....."And while you're at it, show us your projections for the combined company that shows it is accretive to EXM shareholders.
      audiophule...

      I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, audioFOOL, AS SOON AS YOU GIVE US LINKS BY ANALYSTS WHO AGREE WITH YOUR BOGUS NEW TECHNOLOGY CRAP.

    • ...."So you are saying there have been no advances in shipbuilding? Still? You are wrong. Here is what I am saying, that about 350-400 drybulk ships get built this year. That number is 20% under the current orderbook. I also say and have been saying that the ships delivered next year is likely to be about 600. Again, at least 20% under the orderbook. Maybe even 30% under the orderbook. Since you are lambasting me to show you an analyst with delivery estimates matching mine, why don't you do the same? First, tell us what you think the deliveries will be this year and next, then find an analyst who agrees with your numbers.
      audiophule

      WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY SHIPS ARE TO BE DELIVERED, AND YOU'RE NUMBERS, audioFOOL, MEAN NOTHING COMING FROM AN ADMITTED PENNY STOCK GAMBLER. THE KEY HERE IS HOW MAY OF THOSE SHIPS HAVE BEEN BUILT WITH THIS YEAR'S SO CALLED NEW TECHNOLOGY. IT TAKES 2-3 YEARS TO BUILD A SHIP SO HOW COULD THIS YEAR'S NEW TECHNOLOGY BE USED TO BUILD THESE SHIPS STARTED 3 YEARS AGO??????

      YOU KEEP STICKING YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH, DOOFUS, SO WE CAN NOW ASSUME THIS BOGUS B.S. OF YOURS WILL NOT BE ACCOMPANIED BY ANY ANALYST'S LINKS LAUDING THIS SUPPOSED NEW TECHNOLOGY.

      GO PLAY WITH YOUR PENNY STOCKS, IDIOT!!

    • And while you're at it, show us your projections for the combined company that shows it is accretive to EXM shareholders.

    • So you are saying there have been no advances in shipbuilding? Still? You are wrong. Here is what I am saying, that about 350-400 drybulk ships get built this year. That number is 20% under the current orderbook. I also say and have been saying that the ships delivered next year is likely to be about 600. Again, at least 20% under the orderbook. Maybe even 30% under the orderbook. Since you are lambasting me to show you an analyst with delivery estimates matching mine, why don't you do the same? First, tell us what you think the deliveries will be this year and next, then find an analyst who agrees with your numbers.

    • ...."Rivets? Tell me you didn't say rivets. audiophuleTHE MAN CALLED YOUR BLUFF, audioFOOL AND SO DID I. NOW IF YOUR SO #$%$ SURE YOU'RE TALKING NEW TECHNOLOGY INSTEAD OF GOOGLING OLD TECHNOLOGY NEWS, JUST PRODUCE ONE ANALYST, DOOFUS, JUST ONE TEENY LITTLE ANALYST TO SUPPORT YOUR #$%$ YOU LYING CON ARTIST!!

    • ....."No, that's not true at all. Most of the manufacturing of the hull is done off site. Lasers cut the plate. Lasers weld the plates together. Miles of welds are required and lasers do it. That is why shipyards have the largest cranes in the world. They set hull blocks manufactured off site in place, where they are robotically welded together. This is how the build time for a Cape got down to 7-8 months from 18-24 only 3 years ago. And yes, it has been around a while. First at one yard, probably HHI, then it spread. Then it got better, faster, and they are completely state of the art, at the edge of what is possible in the technology. Hell, China just got their first robotic welder last year.
      audiophule

      SAME OLD B.S., SAME OLD TECHNOLOGY, audioFOOL. PRODUCE AN ANALYST WHO AGREES WITH YOUR B.S. INSTEAD OF JUST GOOGLING OLD SHIPPING TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES. YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY, DOOFUS. YUK, YUK

    • ...."And even in that arena, the advances are amazing. Yes, the old Bridgeports still make a lot of parts. The new Bridgeports, probably made in Asia, make the same parts faster, with little labor if any, for a lot less. That is my main point. Advances in manufacturing are happening daily.
      audiophule

      YOU'RE A REAL COMEDIAN, audioFOOL AND YOU GOOGLE SHIPPING TECHNOLOGY EVEN THO, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

      COME UP WITH SHIPPING ANALYSTS WHO AGREE WITH YOUR B.S. YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY OTHERWISE IT BE ALL OVER THE INTERNET, IDIOT.

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