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  • pullinupgold pullinupgold Nov 12, 2008 6:29 PM Flag

    Institutional action for EXM over the last 90 days.

    95 Institutions established new positions in EXM within the last 90 days for a total of 12,482,991 shares. Additionally, 6 added (315,161 combined), 7 sold all (709,160 combined),7 sold some (330,992 combined)http://www.mffais.com/exm.html

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    • Here is the Excel line item:

      EXCEL MARITIME CARRIERS LTD COM V3267N107 1214 80500 SH SOLE

      Value at the end of the period, per share, YEP, you guessed it, $15.08.

    • Nope. The CURRENT VALUE is $695,520. Go to the top of the column.

      Here is their report. Clearly dated "Report for the Calendar Year or Quarter Ended: September 30, 2008"

      http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1107261/000108514608001648/brgw3q08.txt

    • I believe the report date is when the trasaction happened.

      For example, Bridgeway Capital Management Inc bought 80,500 shares for $695,520 ($8.64/share) on 11-14-2008 and EXM's closing price on friday was 8.64.

    • No, I did not prove that. What I proved was that their position at the end of the quarter was worth 15.08 or whatever per share. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY BOUGHT at 15.08, it means their position at the end of the quarter was 15.08 per share. And, oh look, how very strange, the share price of EXM at close on Sept. 30, 2008 was, drum roll please........$15.08! Now, pull up ANY of the reports, find the line item EXM, and compute the value of the shares that any of them held in these reports. You will find, if you take just a few seconds to do this, that they all are worth, per share, (come, on say it, you know what the answer is)....$15.08!!!

    • you know audiophile you just proved it yourself that Renaissance Technologies bought EXM at ~15$ / share...
      that was the price recently with are the market turmoil... they jummed in and bought....
      shows you ... institution know this is a 50-70$ stock and the BDI will soon catapult UPwards



      "Okay, now do this: Click on the first, Renaissance Technologies. ....
      ....See how it coincides with the MFFAIS numbers? Value of their shares at the end of the Q was $7,065,000 for the 468,478 shares they held at the end of the Q. Per share, $15.08. As of September 30, 2008. Has nothing to do with Friday at all, just when the report got filed with the SEC."

    • Okay, now do this: Click on the first, Renaissance Technologies. Then, higlight and copy the name. Then open this site: http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml

      Then click on "Search for Company Filings". Then click on "Companies & Other Filers". Past the name or type it in the space where it says "Company name:". Click "Find Companies". Open the 13F-HR, either the first one or the amended one, and look at it. At the top, it says: "Period of Report:" and give the date, 2008-09-30. That date is September 30, 2008. Open the document and go to the listing of companies. Its long. Way at the end you will find this:

      EXCEL MARITIME CARRIERS LTD COM V3267N107 7065 468478 SH SOLE

      See how it coincides with the MFFAIS numbers? Value of their shares at the end of the Q was $7,065,000 for the 468,478 shares they held at the end of the Q. Per share, $15.08. As of September 30, 2008. Has nothing to do with Friday at all, just when the report got filed with the SEC.

    • More reports dated Friday.(Date of report column)http://www.mffais.com/exm.html

    • Completely false. No institutions report their sales to anyone on a weekly, daily or monthly basis. Only quarterly and then 45 days later. The rule you are quoting refers only to sales at the end of the quarter. If they buy on the last day of the quarter, the purchase must be reported in that quarter, not in the next quarter when the trade settles.

    • You're correct. I checked

    • audiophile, now you are arguing with the facts - RULE 8C.

      All the dates are dates of sale, the date the sale was executed.

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