I didn't mean to imply that all shareholders are in the red. I was referring to the long term performance over the past decade-plus. Historically, before 1998, PBI had been a terrific performer for many, many years. Is there a chance that the stock will repeat the growth years prior to 1998? Sure, but I don't see any sign that it's about to happen anytime soon. Cramer will hype the stock from time to time, but I'm not at all convinced that there's much to be made except for the dividend. Maybe this is one of those stocks that should just be bought in some kind of slow, systematic way so as to spread out the investments rather than an all-at-once investment. If I were to want to put some money to work here, I'd just keep entering open, limit orders below the market on a regular basis, increasing the amount if the price declines. I don't presently own the stock, but I might be tempted if it drops to the lower end of its recent trading range.