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  • yo_ace_lets_do_this yo_ace_lets_do_this Sep 13, 2004 5:03 PM Flag

    Anyone holding CLM and/or CRF?

    Seems like 12% annualized for the next 3 months would not be a bad place to park some cash, better than paltry returns from Money Market funds...

    Although there is alwaysd the risk to capital.

    Thoughts?

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    • have continued the thread here as your last two posts sound well worth looking into further......we always have idea shoppers amongst us...i like your style more and more with each post........highly reccomend that they be reread and looked into.......

      personally will make notes to come back to these later when & if return to former activity status...

      would like to reemphasize your comments as to the importance of new visitors going back over month or so of posts upon arrival....few do it...all should.....

      as to your goin back over posts here...is appreciated...........

      the "T"'s can be a pain in the posterior...but they keep the ball rolling when others are not interested in such..........and are a lot more fair about it than just a few years ago........though have no idea what-so-ever how they would play into buying ADR's or canadians direct.....they are major players mainly in lower liquidity issues (as most are) in my CEFJ & GAW world......from there ...do not know.......

      though you do not post heavily, please feel free to stop by with ideas any time.......also, i could use the exposure, as do not get around much now-a-days...

      tug

    • Thankyou! Very good advise.

    • Easiest answer is to check their profiles to see how long been a member. Large influx of new names lately. You will develop your own favorites as you continue following the board.

      The board owner is Book00, who seldom posts, moderates the board with a gentle but firm hand ie: no personnal attacks and no politics...such are quickly deleted from the board.

      However, IMHO, the greatest value of the board (and you do not need a favorite to benefit) is the factual back and forth on issues/trusts etc. This allows you to make your own determinations but with a broader view.

      For instance, there is seldom a main stream trust distribution decrease without a discussion on the possibilities of such BEFORE THE FACT.

      Lastly, IMHO as should always be done when adding a new board to follow, read the last couple hundred/months posts to get a feel for the posters, terminology, and issues.

      NOTE: major exception to above (forgive me Tug) I had to read 2000+ posts (most but not quite all of the posts from 200 onward) to attempt to understand most of Tugs terminology and ALMOST did not find an explaination of Ts!!

      If you are looking for a Guru to follow, cannot help ya as I have spent 60+ years being independent and have never learned how to go baaaa, lol.

      In closing, I would say all the oldtimers are reliable but some of them do have VERY different opinions and with which ones you might align is a personal matter each must decide for themselves.

      LTBH

    • On your one stop message board reference who are some of the reliable posters?

    • muHahahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!

      and then my all time favorite, the Snidely Whiplash, YaHaHa!!!!!

      depends on the trading action.........

    • i voted for the pun...............shows how good my votes are Hmphhh...

      also, turn4...may i ask a favor with no malice intended? could you skip the hehehehe.............granted, it is a personal problem for me...but i find it irritating....again no wish to offend in any way and of course you can do what you wish on a public board........

      your consideration appreciated, thanks.......tug

    • open ocean......dangerous, like my investing...

      giving up everything that makes my brain hurt........hmmm.. would leave fishing...maybe...

      i like plans and most of us have them....lots of them....

      some seem to work some of the time...

      some none of the time....

      none all of the time (save cash)...

      and they all seem to beat the CD's....

      most success seems to be plans that intermingle and change with market developements and investor psychology.....

      i like chart people, they are logical....they make charts work.... charts give me headaches........

      let us know how it works out over time....

      suppose, i will just roughly stick to the fundamentals...........as is where charts will always end up heading regardless of where they are suppose to be heading

    • http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GRZZX&d=t

      sorry, mistyped the symbol. an offering from Leuthold& Grrrr. hehehehe.

    • GRIZX: is that a cool pun or a real open-end fund?

    • Both are clearly factors. I think time and consistent performance definitely enhance overall comfort levels with an issue, esp. among retail brokerages where blessings to solicit sales is an enormous boon to issues like IMH and PGH. And I do think that once it becomes clear to market participants that we didn't start a new stock bull 3/03, and growth is the same thing as dead money, folks will migrate to value typically defined by yield.

      Let's put it this way: if(BIG if) a PGH were to both sustain its current $2.04 payout, and replace its reserves so that they were at the same level in ten years, no way it trades below $25 and hardly likely to be below $30. The latter price would put it at yield levels comparable to US MLPs(essentially the replacement vehicle for AmRoys) while being a generally more attractive retirement fund investment due to no UBTI.

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