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CWA don't know how 2 strike. Hehehehe.

cohen fed us all a shit sandwich......with a layer of 1 union 1 contract as the cheese.....and hey dont forget seth rosen and jim whitcamp of district 4 and 9 they made the koolaid to drink

We certainly agree on the way the companies have gone to hell in a handbasket because of the hitmen hired to manage them. Congrats on getting out in one piece and making a go of it. Given what you said in your last post, you fall into the "retiree" category in my book. For what it's worth, I have no issue with retirees doing that job- especially after watching what the U-verse contractors did to our plant... ugly, and we'll be busy as hell come winter and the rains.

Verizon must have a pretty liberal policy regarding tools . WOW at SBC or AT+T you would get fired or arrested for taking your hand tools. They do check that stuff here . Same thing with supplies now. In fact we have to submit every order for material to our supervisor for approval before it can be ordered . Maybe thats why Verizon gave their employees such a good contract . They let them have their tools too when they leave and all the material they want . I guess I should have worked for Verizon instead of AT+T .

A confessed thief. You do know that there is not a statute of limitations protection offered for theft. I'm turning you in to Verizon so that they can procure a bench warrant, get your IP from Yahoo and jail/fine your butt.

No I didn't steal from my employer . Believe it or not I buy my own tape . It's not just protocol either I guess things are different were you work . you could lose your job if you don't follow it. Todays new management ya know . Oh and btw on your question about RT or unmanned CO . You still check at the SNI first to make contact with customer a "MUST" . Then after proving not inside or drop by what your testing tells you. Then you would go to RT or CO and test back with drop pulled. If you had both primary pairs shorted to ground or whatever . You would go find a pair or one wire of same length that is good . Strap it at the far end with bad wire to good. Then using what I use a RFL locate your trouble. Adjusting for gauge and type of cable . Pull up cable records to see how cable runs if accessible repair cable . If buried splice or underground or company won't let you work overtime to clear trouble . You would find a spare pair to frog from CO or RT or possible from neighbors spare pair. These days on uverse customers you do whatever it takes to get their TV working that day and if it means running IW over the fence you do it . Then next day call for a digup after you locate and mark . If in the underground you see when you have an available trailer and go repair it. But here we ALWAYS go to the customer first to see if they are home . This is checked so a drive by won't do . And no I stop and drink water but I don't go somewhere and take a break . My lunch is on the job I had my opportunity to go into management but turned it down not worth the hassle .

Hey guy I believe you should fight for everything you can get.

Did I steal from my employeer? Well, yes I did and I bet you do to. Ever took a roll or box of hippie wipes home? How many rolls of 88 tape are in you garage? Ever used a telco zip tie on something other than a job? Every tech steals from the company! Have you ever took an extra 10 minutes for lunch? Think about it!

When I left the company I was told I could keep all of my hand tools and there was never an explanation of exactly what constitutes a hand tool. My 965, 573, 710. and MS2 were acquired on ebay (I'm sure they came from some telco). I took what I did and was never questioned about it. I took no capitol expense tools but I kept my "hand tools".

You failed to answer the question: What if it's a unmanned office or a RT? If both of your primary pairs are shorted to ground, how do you call the customer (unless they have a cell phone in which case they are reinforceing the wireless side while the wireline side dwindles)?

I don't give a rats arse about what protocal is.. you can't get a good test with the pair connected to the CO in the case you asked about. You can get a final test and clear the trouble from the NID after you have corrected the problem.

As for numbers, it's the dumbest thing the telco's ever came up with. You can't ask a GOOD tech to average so many jobs a day. A good tech will stress test the pair and resolve ALL the issues. In some cases this can be done in minutes, other cases may take an entire day or more.

I do enjoy this little diatribe though!

So whoeffer are you telling us you stole from your employer? . We are both in agreement here about upper management I think. Like you said alot of good people in lower management were phone people and knew what the tech went through and worked as a team . Things got done and everyone was happy . Then the NEW management came in and pushed all the real phone people out so its all about numbers now . To them customer service is selling them something . All kidding aside I don't doubt that you are good at what you do whoeffer . But there are a lot of us like me who have put most of their life into this company being there whenever needed day or all night . And i make no apologizes for fighting for what I believe is right .

My son could be a CEO, all he has to do is hire folks to do what he is supposed to do.

I'll yeild the point that there are "contractors" that don't know squat. There are however more guys out there that own their own buckt trucks and tools that are top notch telephone men than you realize. Not enough to replace AT&T's workforce should a strike take place, but there are those of us than can do just about everything.