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  • demtrollsbeware demtrollsbeware Apr 25, 2012 11:28 AM Flag

    ObamaCare is DEAD MEAT

    What a disgraceful episode it's been...

    http://digg.com/newsbar/Politics/obamacare_is_dead_meat

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    • ricky impostor= illiterate maricon!

    • ricky18201@ymail.com ricky18201 May 2, 2012 4:55 PM Flag

      no = know, illiterate?

    • They love that fake cowboy Dubya, you no the guy who was AWOL during the war. He knew he couldn't pass the drug test that pilots had to take back then. Doing to much blow!

    • "So, you're one of the Obama supporters that agrees with him that this country has never been great, our style of government and economy have never worked and never will, that is why he must change it?"

      The President is always saying how great America is and was. Your distortion won't change that. No President fights for American values like this one. Your distortion won't change that. Thank you, Mr. President.

    • >>>>The socio-economic classes are not static, and have never been static.

      Funny you should say that. There have been a spate of studies recently discussing the decline in social mobility in the US, linking it to growing inequality. Here's one from the Boston Fed:

      http://www.bostonfed.org/economic/wp/wp2011/wp1110.pdf

      Obviously, social mobility has always been part of the American dream. Maybe we should try to keep it. In the meantime, blaming the poor for causing a global financial crisis--while letting the masters of the universe who actually caused it off the hook--remains utterly ridiculous. It requires a twisting of common sense and reason that is mind-boggling.

    • Ricky: Please stop with the phony platitudes. "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. That's how it has always been." B.S.

      Tens of millions of Americans over the last 100 years have risen out of poverty through hard work and getting educated. The socio-economic classes are not static, and have never been static. People progress upward as well as downward. The same "poor" people do not just keep getting "poorer" in perpetuity (unless they listen to Socialists and sit on their butts waiting for hand outs.)

    • No deader than your damaged brain....

    • >>>So, you're one of the Obama supporters that agrees with him that this country has never been great, our style of government and economy have never worked and never will, that is why he must change it?

      Not at all. I didn't like the last president and the tea party has gone nutso, but beyond that I think we have a pretty great system. We do need change--a return to pragmatism and compromise and away from the right-wing ideological obstinacy we are experiencing now. Obama is part of that, but change in this system is slow.

      >>>Give me a few examples of where Socialism has worked.

      China comes to mind, but why would I? Facism 'worked', slavery 'worked'. But they do not match our American values.

      >>>Many of the rich got that way through hard work, determination and education.

      Yeah, some did. How do you go from that to they need continuously lower taxes and loopholes to prop them up?

      What we need are people who get rich by making products and services that people want to buy--entrepreneurs. Is that what we have? Or do we have people who play this or that market, loophole, or subsidy and then pay reduced taxes on their unearned income?

      >>>There are just as many Obama backers that inherited their money as there are on the other side.

      Who cares? I care about the policies they support. Obama and Democrats have written budgets and legislation that does the exact things I want them to. Republicans have blocked those things, and the few alternatives they have produced have done the exact opposite.

      Obama and Romney both pay a reduced, 15 tax rate on their unearned income compared to workers or small business owner's earned income. But Obama wants to raise taxes on unearned income, and Romney wants to lower taxes on unearned income. Which policy do you support? That's all that matters. Everything else is crap.

    • But you argue that we should just pile more and more money on people we KNOW will rip us off at every opportunity

      Where did I say that?

      So, you're one of the Obama supporters that agrees with him that this country has never been great, our style of government and economy have never worked and never will, that is why he must change it?

      Give me a few examples of where Socialism has worked.

      Not all the rich get their wealth by stealing or ripping people off. Many of the rich got that way through hard work, determination and education.

      Why should those that didn't get educated, didn't work hard, never had a real idea of their own reap the rewards of those that did?

      There are just as many Obama backers that inherited their money as there are on the other side. Wall Street contributes heavily to his campaign funds, most ofo his staff came from Wall Street or K Street. He is no saint, he is just another lying politican.

    • I did not blame anyone for getting rich on the backs of the poor. I pointed out how ridiculous it is to believe that the poor have the economic power to collapse our financial system or that the poor benefited from the collapse.

      This isn't rocket science. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. That's how it has always been. It takes some strange twists of brain-washing to get you people to think otherwise.

      But you argue that we should just pile more and more money on people we KNOW will rip us off at every opportunity, and then blame the people who get ripped off for being ripped off. Spend 5 minutes reading about what Goldman Sachs did when they realized the securities they were selling were toxic and then decide if the solution is to cut taxes even more for these people. It's nuts. You're nuts. It defies reason.

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