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  • echo2165 echo2165 Oct 8, 2013 2:00 PM Flag

    The 'em and weep, kids...

    ...With polls in a death spiral for their once proud party, at what point do the GOP moderates start jettisoning the tea bales overboard?

    Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    ABC News, Oct. 7, 2013

    “Seven in 10 adults disapprove of the way Republicans are handling themselves in the wrangling over funding the government, according to the ABC News/Washington Post poll released Monday. That's a 7-point jump since last week and includes 59% of Americans who identify themselves as conservatives...

    ...a challenge for the Republicans in particular is that their disapproval ratings for handling the situation have increased numerically across the partisan board, among Republicans (+7 points), independents (+5) and Democrats (+9) alike.

    IDEOLOGY – Ideology, as well as partisanship, indicate difficulties for the GOP. Even among conservatives, 59 percent disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling the situation, including nearly half of ‘very’ conservatives (47 percent), rising to 68 percent of ‘somewhat’ conservatives. Nearly three-quarters of moderates disapprove as well.

    The Republicans also have lost ground at either end of the economic scale, moving from two-thirds disapproval a week ago to about three-quarters now both among Americans with household incomes less than $50,000 a year and among those with incomes more than $100,000.” – Gary Langer, ABC

    Seriously, I have a legitimate question for the board. If “nearly half of ‘very’ conservatives” and “68 percent of ‘somewhat’ conservatives’ disapprove, then who exactly is on this board all day, every day preaching the radical extremism of the lunatic fringe?...and more importantly for the citizens of this country, how come none of you ever speak up? You mean half of the “very” conservative folks and almost 7 in 10 “somewhat conservative” are permitting themselves to be represented by people that are willing to destroy our country over their warped ideology? You should be ashamed of your silence.

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    • Why do you like what the polls say only when they agree with your point of view? Rather narrow don't you think? Besides anyone with half a brain, knows that poll questions and the audience they select is to generate the results desired. Polls are like rumors of your last date, terrible and boring.

      • 1 Reply to pinhighshot
      • Polls don't agree or disagree with a point of view. They provide a snapshot of public opinion. Or, simply, they describe reality.

        I can't speak for echo, but I like polls that accurately describe reality. I dislike polls that do not, including polls that may seem to make my point of view seem popular or reinforce my conceptions. (I feel the same way about news sources).

        "Polls are like rumors of your last date,"

        No, they are not. The polls referred to here are performed using the best scientific principles. These are not "polls" on Rush Limbaugh's website. You ignore them at your own peril.

        Which I am sure you Tea Brains will do. Which will lead you to further idiocy and bouts of self-destruction.

    • Hey 'EGGO' .. so hows YOUR poll going ?? About the same as Obama's current "job approval rating" .. smiles !

    • Most Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job, latest polls show only 37 percent of Americans approve of the job he doing. His approval rating is much lower than W's was at this point in his presidency.

    • there is a reason why there are more republicans than dems in the house. doosh's like you. Hope they get a super majority and just ram stuff through, like the dems did for 2 years....2008-2010. By the way, what did they run through? Yeah, exactly. They increased defense spending and spending on both wars, still going on. What a bunch of hippocrits....and you fell for it. sucker!

      • 2 Replies to grgsvll
      • grgsvll... more republicans in the house now won't last. During the Clinton years the repigs shut down the gov't and lost the house big time. Keep fooling yourself... fool!

      • ricky18201 Oct 9, 2013 8:22 AM Flag

        "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America 's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America 's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, 'the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."
        ~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

    • You tout polls? It's been known for a long time that those that run them use them to shape the publics view, not to reflect it. There was a man once upon a time that stated; "The majority is most often wrong." Take it to heart. "Boobus Americanus" has very few original thoughts.

    • So, you believe that a poll run by ABC and the Washington Post is a reliable source? There's bridge from Manhattan to Brooklyn that you can buy too.

      • 1 Reply to onequarteridiot
      • ...“So, you believe that a poll run by ABC and the Washington Post is a reliable source? There's bridge from Manhattan to Brooklyn that you can buy too.”

        Well, I believe that if you actually had another poll from any equally valid source as these two, major established and well known media operations unrelated to one another, you’d be the first to show some numbers, rather than replying with a meaningless, tired cliché.

        It wasn’t an editorial, Einstein…the opinions were from polls of real people, not columnists…and while it would appear that those opinions are meaningless to you, it doesn’t change the fact that many, many of them were conservatives who are fed up with the few megalomaniacs who are trying to extort America.

        Well, speaking of the lunatic fringe…lookie, here…today Brenda Barton from Arizona called the duly elected President of The United States of America, “de Fuhrer.” And you wonder why reasonable Republicans are saying, “Enough!"?

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