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  • jefferdr jefferdr Apr 15, 1999 9:34 AM Flag

    Merrill Says Great things about HMA tod

    I just checked Bloomberg, and Merrill says that
    HMA looks great. HMA presented at their Health Care
    Conference yesterday, and HMA's CEO said that this quarter
    would be the 42nd consecutive Q with Earnings growth.
    Merrill analysts raised their near-term Price Target to
    18 on HMA, saying that HMA continues to expand,
    execute, and impress.

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    • anyone know extent of current short interest in
      HMA. I'm already heavily into this stock and will buy
      more at $11.00,I guess we're seeing ,once again, heavy
      institutional selling.For everyone who sells for any reason
      there's someone else who's buying because they think it's
      going up.This is not for the faint-hearted. The real
      pros hold more than 80% of this stock, insiders hold
      another 10%( they're holding on, having seen their
      holdings go from $25 to $12), smallplayers just have to
      hold on. Good luck longs

    • Nice to hear that you made profit in health care
      sector before. Better invest more in HMA if you want to
      become more rich. It is a good investment in short term
      as well as in long term. And offcourse if you have
      shorted HMA then better buy it back.
      What I believe
      is that you want to buy HMA but at a lesser price
      than current. You know it is a chicken giving golden
      eggs. What you don't know is HMA is already far
      undervalued and far oversold.
      Friends this is a golden
      opportunity to buy HMA. I don't feel this is going to go down
      further. BUY BUY BUY.
      Bull_No_1

    • Having 20 + years experience in the healthcare
      field has made me one very sharp hombre. I have only
      twice invested in healthcare issues and twice I have
      made a good profit. (Columbia and HMA).
      As Kenny
      Rogers said: "You gotta know when to hold em and know
      when to fold em".

    • I couldn't resist the moment to post another
      Peter Lynch
      Golden Rule.

      "There is always
      something to worry about. Avoid weekend thinking and ignore
      the latest dire predictions of newscasters. Sell a
      stock because the company's fundamentals deteriorate,
      not because the sky is falling."

      Last time I
      checked HMA's fundamentals are not deteriorating.

    • You have a nice imagination. Also you must have shorted HMA.
      7 strong buys for this company and joker like you says that they are all fools. Better get some help buddy.

    • "The old ways of determining the success of
      health care organizations are no longer valid," said
      Prince, who is a professor of health services management,
      accounting and information systems at the J.L. Kellogg
      Graduate School of Management of Northwestern University.
      "New measures that more accurately reflect today's
      health care system are needed."

      A Dec. 8 AHA News
      feature story on the issue, Hitting the books: Will your
      hospital survive? Margins can't tell the whole story,
      focuses on the need to re-examine how government,
      communities and hospitals perceive the relative financial
      well-being of health care institutions.

      Do the
      math
      By plugging in data from certified financial
      statements, hospitals and other institutions can gauge their
      financial status The indicators are:

      Cash Flow to
      Net Patient Revenue
      Cash Flow to Total
      Liabilities
      Return to Net Operating Revenue
      Return to
      Patient Revenue
      Case-mix Index for Medicare
      Inpatients in the Medicare Prospective-Payment System

      Average Age of Plant and Equipment

    • As I am sure you don't have a clue as to how to
      analyze a hospital corps. balance sheet (neither do most
      "Analysts"...I will leave you with a few pearls of
      wisdom.

      1. Stay away from hospital stock....too volatile. My
      best advice. If you care not to take it read
      on.......

      2. Don't believe that simple numbers expressing
      growth or profit amount to proof positive that you have
      found "value" in a hospital offering. In HMA's case 21%
      growth begs the question....21% of what? Hma now owns or
      leases 34 or so hospitals. Columbia owns 330+ hospitals.
      Yet the total number of beds in Hma facilities are
      less then 3% of the total beds managed by Columbia.
      HMA is a VERY SMALL HOSPITAL CORPORATION. You know
      that if you own 1 of something and aquire a second you
      have grown by 100%. For HMA 21% growth equals about 90
      hospital beds. Keep it in perspective. They do not have
      mass to sustain in a financially tight
      environment.

      3. Hospitals keep the most slippery sets of books
      imaginable. Hospitals defy normal corporate accounting
      practices. There profits and losses do not depend upon
      normal market forces. SUPPLY AND DEMAND ARE NOT THE
      PRIMARY FORCES AT WORK DEFINING THE BOTTOM
      LINE.

      4. A good question to ask of Hma is how will the
      company fair in a competitive environment that they are
      now moving into with recent aquisitions. I suggest to
      you that they will not do well as they are too
      centralized and corporately inflexible to compete in local
      markets. ( If you review their proprietary management plan
      the want to raise prices within a year of acquiring a
      facility....not easy to do when you face competition. They simply
      haven't had to compete in the past and they do not know
      how to go about it. The learning curve will be real
      slow.

      So as not to leave you empty handed I offer you a
      way to figure out how well HMA is really doing. When
      you discover that you still cannot really g

    • CYSI -- ANYWAY, WON'T BORE YOU WITH THE DETAILS,
      BUT READ THE LAST FOUR NEWS STORIES ON CYSI AND
      YOU'LL SEE WHY UP 80% LAST 3 DAYS AND HAS POTENTIAL,
      BASED ON SIMPLE FUTURE EARNINGS LATER IN YEAR THAT ARE
      BASICALLY PRE-ANNOUNCED IN THE NEWS RELEASES, WHY CYSI WILL
      BE A 10-BAGGER (1000%) GAIN. HERE'S THE
      LINK...

      http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=cysi&d=t

    • THIS_IS_INTERN_MONICA_HELLO_BILL THIS_IS_INTERN_MONICA_HELLO_BILL Jun 8, 1999 2:15 PM Flag

      8-Jun-99 11:50:59 Thomson I-Watch shows that
      Health Management Assoc
      is seeing
      strong interest
      from institutional brokers on both the buy and
      sell
      side in the
      pre-trade market. The trading data
      shows that these brokers are
      following
      through
      with execution - over 2.4 million shares have traded
      this
      morning,
      compared to average daily volume of 1.4
      million shares. Of today's
      volume,
      almost 95% of
      was related to block transactions. The stock was
      delayed
      on a sell
      imbalance this morning, opening down
      $1/2 on a 847,000 share trade.
      MONICA, SMITH BARNEY
      STOCKPICKS YOU ASKED ME LAST
      WEEK
      http://www.angelfire.com/mo/sbtech MONICA, I LOVE YOU!

    • John R. Schroer is scheduled to be the special
      guest on Wall
      Street Week w/Luis Rukeyser. He is the
      portfolio manager for Invesco Health Sciences Fund. I don't
      know what his opinion of HMA is. His comments on the
      health care industry should be interesting regardless of
      whether HMA is mentioned.

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