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  • equitiesresearchdotcom equitiesresearchdotcom Aug 28, 2012 1:23 PM Flag

    Operational Cash Flow per share has declined

    FYI,

    operational cash for the trailing twelve months
    ending 6/30/2012 vs. ttm 6/30/2011
    down $196,160,000 (-11.8%)

    operational cash flow for 6mos 2012 vs. 6mos 2011
    down $107 million (-12.38%)

    Annual operational cash flow per share has actually declined
    from 2009 to 2010 to 2011:
    2009: $2.39
    2010: $1.88 (-21.5%)
    2011: $1.59 (-15.6% from 2010) (-34% from 2009)

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    • cdiso,
      " i don't really care one way or the other about this ticker.
      I only pointed out these operational cash flow statistics because i read a seeking alpha article"

      OK

      See if this posts. jees.. Oh wait, not islamad. I am UNITED STATES

    • Everyone who owns this stock knows that trailing twelve months doesn't mean squat between 2011 and now. There have been a lot of changes imo :)

      Might not look good on the balance sheet right now but I believe it's a keeper.

      Plus they have the employee count to consider if it really gets ugly.

      So if you, equity research want to really look at it, consider the other alternatives?

      • 1 Reply to cd_iso
      • cdiso,
        i don't really care one way or the other about this ticker.
        I only pointed out these operational cash flow statistics because i read a seeking alpha article under yahoo news that touted how this was a cash flow machine and that the dividend was stable. The article put a positive spin on the "statement of cash flow.". after reading the article I went and checked the numbers for myself and didn't see such attractive numbers, so i pointed out the numbers here with a little more transparency so that some mom and pop investor gets a better picture.
        looking at numbers is one thing, but you also need to mention how many shares are outstanding.
        the article talked about numbers from the past 5 years but failedto mention that shares outstanding increased significantly.

        my question is , how (why) did the number of shares outstanding go from 313 million (Q1 2010) to 998 million (Q2 2012)?
        again, i really don't care one way or the other. but i wasted my time reading the article so i figured i'd add what i learned so it wouldn't be a total waste of my time if i help someone else.

    • "FYI,

      operational cash for the trailing twelve months
      ending 6/30/2012 vs. ttm 6/30/2011
      down $196,160,000 (-11.8%)

      operational cash flow for 6mos 2012 vs. 6mos 2011
      down $107 million (-12.38%)

      Annual operational cash flow per share has actually declined
      from 2009 to 2010 to 2011:
      2009: $2.39
      2010: $1.88 (-21.5%)
      2011: $1.59 (-15.6% from 2010) (-34% from 2009)"

      Good points. But the FTR Flagrante will keep pointing to FTR's special non-GAAP "Free Cash Flow" and tell you it's growing. That's the one that adds back money spent to operating cash flow and terms it "Free Cash Flow".

      It's all about revenue.

 
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