"Quit bashing Seth" Your article is nothing more than "misrepresentation", and an attempt to gain attention to the Fools. You can achieve the same objective my not "bashing", and stating the facts in an objective manner. Fine, go listen XFM, hope you enjoy your NASCAR! Oh yeah, I think you forgot to read J. Clayton's rebuttal to Herb Greenberg's erroneous commentary: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?source=blq/yhoo&siteid=yhoo&dist= yhoo&guid=%7BCCBEFA7C%2D5D70%2D4962%2DA20D%2D362B039B0B93%7D But, alas, it's not "straight facts" that interest you, now is it? BTW, you realize XM counts all it's GM-installs as subs, right? Even if the customer chooses not to renew his/her free 3-month trial membership? No wonder XM has 1,600,000 subs, if they count all the GM-installs! I wonder how many they have from people who actually choose them? Sincerely "not fooled", A.C.