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  • appleonians appleonians Dec 3, 2011 8:15 AM Flag

    An Inspiring Post from IHUB.

    Okay....maybe classified as a pump, or, maybe closer to the mark than most have imagined....but its just a nice post to read for the weekend.


    http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=69563859

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    • "What are you talking about? They are currently involved in a high stakes bidding war to sell the company for something in the range of what the other patents sold for."

      Again I ask you, what high stakes bidding war? A more appropriate question would be, what bidding?

      xray, just so I have an idea of who I am dealing with here, can you at least answer one question. Do you believe in Bigfoot?

    • Mickeybritt is an uneducated idiot. He's truly dumber than a rock!

    • What are you talking about? They are currently involved in a high stakes bidding war to sell the company for something in the range of what the other patents sold for.

      You have been listening to idiot Lind so long you are starting to believe his fairytails.

    • Here's another clue for you all:

      Mickey Britt had been killed in a car crash circulated in London after a January 1967 traffic accident involving his car.

    • Florian Mueller "FOSS PATENTS" just wrote a piece informing us that the famous "killer patents" are just lame ducks. Basically design patents -ex killer patents- give their owners braging rights and little more.

      Mueller's report: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/12/denial-of-us-preliminary-injunction.html

      IDCC was chastized a few months back because it did NOT have design "killer" patents. Gloom & Doom started that panic. Then we learnt that IDCC's patents were FRAND.

      At that time the bashers stated that Co's would pay top dollars for "killer" patents and dismiss FRAND patents...therefore IDCC was doooooooooooomed.

      Well...apparently design patents don't have teeth. So AAPL won't be able to vaporize Samsung but... with good FRAND patents can perhaps collect from them.

      IDCC is profitable & is worth 45 $/share as is, according to Sara Wang/Barclays.

      Now add to this (due to her work methodology Wang could not do this) and reflect on the price:

      1. Explosive worldwide market growth for 3G cellphones. Coming 4G growth explosion.
      2. IDCC collects pitances from that 1/2 of the market that subscribed to its 2G+3G, what will happen when those contracts are more intelligently renewed?
      3. What will happen when IDCC starts collecting FRAND from the other 1/2 that never paid (future+retroactive)?
      4. What will happen with 4G ? Read Ocean Tomo's analysis on 4G essential patents and IDCC's importance in that field.
      5. What will happen with data compression (apparently able to compress 10x) + M2M ?
      6. Add to this a competitive environment that changes every day!

      7. And here I reconnect with the Mueller article with a quote that addresses another judicial issue regarding patents. There is some sort of judicial rebellion due to patent litigation overload.

      I quote a Chief Judge:

      "Frankly I am not sure who causes more meritless litigation—the troll asserting patents beyond their value or the grasshopper refusing to license until litigation has finally made it impossible to avoid. I am surer, however, that both the troll and the grasshopper tend to blame and feed off of each other. Neither deserves encouragement or tolerance. And so that gets us to the prospect of controlling trolls and grasshoppers."

      And, may I add, IDCC is neither of them. Neither troll nor grasshopper.

    • Florian Mueller "FOSS PATENTS" just wrote a piece informing us that the famous "killer patents" are just lame ducks. Basically design patents -ex killer patents- give their owners braging rights and little more.

      Mueller's report: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/12/denial-of-us-preliminary-injunction.html

      IDCC was chastized a few months back because it did NOT have killer patents. Gloom & Doom started that panic. Then we learnt that IDCC's patents were FRAND.

      At that time the bashers stated that Co's would pay top dollars for killer patents and dismiss FRAND patents...therefore IDCC was doooooooooooomed.

      Well...... killer patents don't have teeth. So AAPL won't be able to kill Samsung but... with good FRAND patents can collect from them.

      IDCC is profitable & is worth 45 $/share as is, according to Sara Wang/Barclays.

      Now add to this (due to her work methodology Wang could not do this) and start imagining the price:

      1. Explosive worldwide market growth for 3G cellphones. Coming 4G growth explosion.
      2. IDCC collects pitances from that 1/2 of the market that subscribed to its 2G+3G, what will happen when those contracts are more intelligently renewed?
      3. What will happen when IDCC starts collecting FRAND from the other 1/2 that never paid (future+retroactive)?
      4. What will happen with 4G ? Read Ocean Tomo's analysis on 4G essential patents and IDCC's importance in that field.
      5. What will happen with data compression (apparently able to compress 10x) + M2M ?
      6. Add to this a competitive environment that changes every day!

      7. And here I reconnect with the Mueller article with a quote that addresses another judicial issue regarding patents. There is some sort of judicial rebellion due to patent litigation overload.

      I quote a Chief Judge:

      "Frankly I am not sure who causes more meritless litigation—the troll asserting patents beyond their value or the grasshopper refusing to license until litigation has finally made it impossible to avoid. I am surer, however, that both the troll and the grasshopper tend to blame and feed off of each other. Neither deserves encouragement or tolerance. And so that gets us to the prospect of controlling trolls and grasshoppers."

      And, may I add, IDCC is neither of them. Neither troll nor grasshopper.

    • Florian Mueller "FOSS PATENTS" just wrote a piece informing us that the famous "killer patents" are just lame ducks. Basically design patents -ex killer patents- give their owners braging rights and little more.

      Mueller's report: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/12/denial-of-us-preliminary-injunction.html

      IDCC was chastized a few months back because it did NOT have killer patents. Gloom & Bullshitoon started that panic. Then we learnt that IDCC's patents were FRAND.

      At that time the bashers stated that Co's would pay top dollars for killer patents and dismiss FRAND patents...therefore IDCC was doooooooooooomed.

      Well...... killer patents don't have teeth. So AAPL won't be able to kill Samsung but... with good FRAND patents can collect from them.

      IDCC is profitable & is worth 45 $/share as is, according to Sara Wang/Barclays.

      Now add to this (due to her work methodology Wang could not do this) and start imagining the price:

      1. Explosive worldwide market growth for 3G cellphones. Coming 4G growth explosion.
      2. IDCC collects pitances from that 1/2 of the market that subscribed to its 2G+3G, what will happen when those contracts are more intelligently renewed?
      3. What will happen when IDCC starts collecting FRAND from the other 1/2 that never paid (future+retroactive)?
      4. What will happen with 4G ? Read Ocean Tomo's analysis on 4G essential patents and IDCC's importance in that field.
      5. What will happen with data compression (apparently able to compress 10x) + M2M ?
      6. Add to this a competitive environment that changes every day!

      7. And here I reconnect with the Mueller article with a quote that addresses another judicial issue regarding patents. There is some sort of judicial rebellion due to patent litigation overload.

      I quote a Chief Judge:

      "Frankly I am not sure who causes more meritless litigation—the troll asserting patents beyond their value or the grasshopper refusing to license until litigation has finally made it impossible to avoid. I am surer, however, that both the troll and the grasshopper tend to blame and feed off of each other. Neither deserves encouragement or tolerance. And so that gets us to the prospect of controlling trolls and grasshoppers."

      And, may I add, IDCC is neither of them. Neither troll nor grasshopper.

    • Florian Mueller "FOSS PATENTS" just wrote a piece informing us that the famous "killer patents" are just lame ducks. Basically design patents -ex killer patents- give their owners braging rights and little more.

      Mueller's report: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/12/denial-of-us-preliminary-injunction.html

      IDCC was chastized a few months back because it did NOT have killer patents. Gloom & Bullshitoon started that panic. Then we learnt that IDCC's patents were FRAND.

      At that time the bashers stated that Co's would pay top dollars for killer patents and take a leak on FRAND patents...therefore IDCC was doooooooooooomed.

      Well...... killer patents don't have teeth. So AAPL won't be able to kill Samsung but... with good FRAND patents can collect from them.

      IDCC is profitable & is worth 45 $/share as is, according to Sara Wang/Barclays.

      Now add to this (due to her work methodology Wang could not do this) and start imagining the price:

      1. Explosive worldwide market growth for 3G cellphones. Coming 4G growth explosion.
      2. IDCC collects pitances from that 1/2 of the market that subscribed to its 2G+3G, what will happen when those contracts are more intelligently renewed?
      3. What will happen when IDCC starts collecting FRAND from the other 1/2 that never paid (future+retroactive)?
      4. What will happen with 4G ? Read Ocean Tomo's analysis on 4G essential patents and IDCC's importance in that field.
      5. What will happen with data compression (apparently able to compress 10x) + M2M ?
      6. Add to this a competitive environment that changes every day!

      7. And here I reconnect with the Mueller article with a quote that addresses another judicial issue regarding patents. There is some sort of judicial rebellion due to patent litigation overload.

      I quote a Chief Judge:

      "Frankly I am not sure who causes more meritless litigation—the troll asserting patents beyond their value or the grasshopper refusing to license until litigation has finally made it impossible to avoid. I am surer, however, that both the troll and the grasshopper tend to blame and feed off of each other. Neither deserves encouragement or tolerance. And so that gets us to the prospect of controlling trolls and grasshoppers."

      And, may I add, IDCC is neither of them. Neither troll nor grasshopper

    • ROFLMAO ........

      You use a post from one of the biggest Pumpers this board and other boards have ever seen <Micky B> ....... He CLAIMED Ericy would pay a BILLION dollars to IDCC years ago .........then he turnes around and tells us all how he lost MIllions on Idcc ........REALLLLLLLLLLL INSPIRING from a man thats has been WRONG for yearsssssssssssssss lol

      • 1 Reply to tenxray
      • He used some justification for his predicted buy out price....about how far ahead IDCC was years ago, on the current technology. And how they may be that far ahead in their LTE patents......Is there any justification to the contrary??? I know many "experts" here said that the "review" wouldn't take long at all...I started coming to the conclusion that these reviews plus
        the forming of the consortiums is very complicated and may take much longer than many predicted...and I was shot down for that....now that premise doesn't seem so far fetched....

    • $12 billion? Why not $24 billion. After all, AAPL has the cash and I'm sure they have no better uses.

      You do realize that every time someone posts this sort of absurd valuation for IDCC, it just makes the case for long IDCC seem ridiculous.

 
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