Naw. it was always ugly. At least artguy and his nonsense about NA SAW stopped. No way to stop Googleman and his hilarious conclusions though. If you respond, then you get crapola for it. Reasonable responses about unreasonable posts are looked at as attacks. No disscussion is possible on that board. That is why that board is dead. Even Jim laughs at him. Jim does have a good sense of humor about many things, especially when it comes to Allnumb. Pretty embarrassing Allnumb. Problem is that you think you are smart. And you say you beat Rizzo in court? That is total bs. That is not even remotely possible. IMO of course.