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  • mysapnet mysapnet Jul 3, 2003 4:21 PM Flag

    RIF In progress

    And no one on this board is talking why? There are dead bodies everywhere . . . hopefully the mouth in the south got it - finally!

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    • Clever. Create/update the user so you can slam somone. I am impressed. grasping at straws, are you? get a life.

    • Another point I forgot to address:

      <So my Sapnet told you to "work and shut up about it?" Which identity were you posting under, because according to you, you are a mere housewifey. Your duplicity is showing>

      I said Mysapnet told me something SIMILAR, which was to "Either post and shut up about it, or go away."

      I see that on top of your sexism, bitterness, and lack of common sense, you also have a reading comprehension disorder.

    • turn_your_head_and_cough_again turn_your_head_and_cough_again Jul 11, 2003 10:25 AM Flag

      "I see no reason to stay at a company you hate so much unless you are 100% certain nobody else would want your sorry ass. "

      I can think of a reason . . . unpaid commissions.

    • Don't know why I'm bothering to reply to you (you have no common sense or logic abilities), but I will say this:

      If you're truly good at what you do, you can find another job. I've seen quite a few of my husbands friends who were laid off sales reps from i2 and Manugistics find employment elsewhere, either in consulting or other sales fields. I see no reason to stay at a company you hate so much unless you are 100% certain nobody else would want your sorry ass.

    • Somehow I knew you wouldn't respond to my post. Kinda sad how you love to heap insults on others, but then ignore them when they ask tough questions and make legtimate points. Great strategy, very brave.

      Side note: I have read maybe 10-15 of your posts, and have seen you reference the $13M and $50K sales differential (and subsequent unfair layoffs) in about five of those posts; you need to get some new material.

    • "Why is it that a Company that likes to brag about it�s �Best Business Practices�, Business Intelligence, CRM Capabilities, SEM, and APO leadership has no clue on how to effectively design a Sales Organization?"

      I think that you hit the nail on the head. I have not been with SAP for 2 years, but just think about it. SAP didn't even use a CRM system intil recently; and pease don't even mention MKIS. There was a sales process but it was all talk and no walk. That and the organization is turned upside down every 10 months so the customer gets yanked, over and over and over. But then I guess that you don't need to be a good ball player to be a good coach.

    • So my Sapnet told you to "work and shut up about it?" Which identity were you posting under, because according to you, you are a mere housewifey. Your duplicity is showing.

      BTW, a lot of people here would quit their jobs if there were other places to go. SAP will have a second brain drain as the economy turns around.

      SAP is not known as a place where you can voice your opinion for long and remain employed. However if you sell a little and nuzzle up appropriately you might get to keep your job. Bill IS changing that. One friend said his boss told him recently that he can't "protect him any longer". Why should he ever have been able to protect him? I don't know. I like the guy, but he couldn't sell. He should have been let go long before a lot of the over-quota reps who were let go last January.


      "And you call ME weak? So I'll tell you something similar to what you told me: Either work and shut up about it, or quit your job. If you decide to stay, then you need to quit whining and bitching about the company that puts food on your table; there are a lot of people without jobs right now who would be happy to be employed"

    • "Do you think the typical SAP AE is lazy and has no desire to make money? A rep is solely evaluated on selling new licenses�.end of story; you are not rewarded for showing good customer service to accounts with zero revenue potential (Screw the fact they spent $$$Million of dollars with us), because it will only get your ass FIRED!!"

      I'll go one step further. Once you are fired, and the customer decides to sue SAP, some poor schlep who now covers the account will take the fall. SAP will blame it on the rep who didn't sell the account because someone has to take the blame.

      I would disagree that only reps who make money are retained. I am friends with three men who left here this year. One was at 95% of quota and the other sold $13M. The third one was over quota and was asked to transition his accounts to a schlep who sold a GRAND total of $50k last year.

      I also know one screwball from Kennesaw who lasted 3 years without making quota but he does produce good golf opportunities for his bosses.

    • You guys crack me up! Why let this person get you all work up? Obviously her strategy is working on you! Unless you have been a badge carrying
      employee at SAP, do not even try to comment positively or negatively on the working conditions at SAP. Do you think the typical SAP AE is lazy and has no desire to make money? A rep is solely evaluated on selling new licenses�.end of story; you are not rewarded for showing good customer service to accounts with zero revenue potential (Screw the fact they spent $$$Million of dollars with us), because it will only get your ass FIRED!! Unless you have walked in our shoes, shut the hell up!

      The truth of the matter, I can tell who is still employed and who is not, but their complaints are 99% accurate, and maybe Senior Management should look in the mirror to realize cheap rhetoric and brow beating has not improved the situation! Why is it that a Company that likes to brag about it�s �Best Business Practices�, Business Intelligence, CRM Capabilities, SEM, and APO leadership has no clue on how to effectively design a Sales Organization?

    • do_you_like_it_when_it_hurts do_you_like_it_when_it_hurts Jul 10, 2003 11:30 PM Flag

      what did i tell you? this bitch needs to gag on a stiff cock for about half an hour. now that would really shut her up. or maybe if somebody just made her cum. she obviously hasn't cum in a long fuckin time. shut up bitch.

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