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  • my_views_on_this_topic my_views_on_this_topic Nov 18, 2012 6:25 PM Flag

    For users wondering why the shares are at its current levels.

    Underwriters and market manipulators are playing this stock to far exceed what it is worth to pull more gullible investors in. They will sell these shares over the coming few weeks/months/year to your losses.

    No investor in his/her right mind is purchasing anymore, considering some (and the same) of them have been advocating people buy from the time it was $45 and continued to fall. At this moment, if they have been following their own advice hoping someone else will pull them out of the ditch they put themselves into, they will be doubling up and loading up and backing the truck up to millions of shares. It would almost seem that the same few investors hold all 400 million of the shares out there (which is not possible). So it is the big institutions (along with these few investors) who are advocating you buy, which as I have been saying for the longest time, is foolish for the next year at least. There are articles on how MS (Morgan Stanley), JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo and a host of other underwriters who purchased high and have continued to sell low at peoples losses. Research and see why FB is such a bad investment.

    Day traders make money on day to day fluctuations and will continue to profit or loss every day. But anyone else buying long term, IMHO, should stay away from purchasing this POS. If employees do not sell everything now, they will over the next year. The same with the big institutions. Not so long back Fidelity sold their stake in FB. Other mutual fund managers will see reason soon.

    Competition, zero business model, and an impending recession will take FB down to its low single digits to the loss of anyone trying to hold on to a company that sugar coats its words at the times of its earning reports and gets people to believe that its LOSSES (yes anyone who reads the reports will know it was a LOSS in the last quarter, not how they packaged it as a potential growth), is a buy for the future. Initial hype of the ad platform died as with everything else FB has rolled out.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    • my_views_on_this_topic my_views_on_this_topic Nov 20, 2012 12:50 PM Flag

      The more insiders try to postpone the inevitable doom of FB, the more insiders lose.

      Sentiment: Strong Sell

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      • my_views_on_this_topic my_views_on_this_topic Nov 20, 2012 12:55 PM Flag

        Investors in any shares of the underwriters like GS (Goldman Sachs), MS (Morgan Stanley), JPM (JP Morgan) and the rest of the 40 investors will want to sell their stakes in those companies soon. The more they try to prop this POS ticker up the more they have bought in the recent past from $45 down to $20, the more they will have to sell eventually, all to the losses of the average investor who has purchase FB.

        Sentiment: Strong Sell

    • Hilarious. You must own FB or interested in owning it or you wouldn't be here.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

      • 1 Reply to dino2hootie
      • my_views_on_this_topic my_views_on_this_topic Nov 20, 2012 12:25 PM Flag

        Or I am willing to let newby investors see the real side of technology going wrong at a loss of a few valuable minutes of my personal time every week. FB is unethical. Todays articles talk about how FB is SELLING YOUR PHONE NUMBER to advertisers. If you think advertisers have no way of identifying you, THINK AGAIN. Advertisers have the option of paying extra for that service. Now fast forward a few months. Your phone is going to look like your email inbox and spam folder. If you have FB on your phone, the damage has been done. Even if you did not give your phone number to them, every snippet of data sent or received has a way of pulling your phone number. You could reduce potential future further damages by uninstalling the app, but that is each persons call and choice.

        Nearly 80 percent of e-mails sent worldwide are spam, and research has shown that junk communications can cost billions - and not just because companies have to buy extra computer capacity to cope with the influx of e-mails. The time employees spend deleting junk e-mail costs
        companies nearly $22 billion a year, according to a recent survey.

        A random telephone survey of 1,000 adults by the National Technology Readiness Survey produced by Rockbridge Associates Inc. and the University of Maryland's Center for Excellence in Service revealed that 75 percent of Internet users receive spam daily. The average number of spam messages received per day is 18.5 and the average time spent each day deleting them is 2.8 minutes. The study found that the loss in productivity equals $21.6 billion per year based on average U.S. wages.

        Sentiment: Strong Sell

    • Long term investors are hoping others will subscribe to the idea of clicking on ads even though they hate the idea of doing so themselves.

      . Microsoft has ads
      . Google has ads
      . YouTube has ads
      . Yahoo has ads
      . LinkedIn has ads
      . Facebook has ads
      . Groupon has ads PLUS RETAIL
      . Almost every single free website these days has ads

      Not a single company (except FB) has been given a $104 BILLION valuation on its ad module. All the new (dut cum) companies have a valuation down to $2-3 billion tops. FB is a $10 billion tops even with all optimism thrown in and the much hyped 1 billion users (which in my opinion is closer to under 100 million ACTIVE MEDIAN users. FB sould more likely be a $5 billion firm and even that is saying too much.

      Another 75% drop down from $20 is on its way soon to under $5.

      No one willingly clicks on ads on those other sites. Not sure why investors suddenly started to believe that users are eager to click on ads on FB and that only FB deserves a revenue model that is large. Do these investors themselves click on ads every single day to let FB track their usage and display it to their friends and family? Common sense says no.

      FB is about to see massive corrections from the already STUPENDOUSLY LARGE 50% correction it has seen over the last 6 months. FB is on its way down to the low single digits. This stock at a HUGE 7x P/E (for a company that was already valued at $104 BILLION), is only $2.50.

      Investors who purchase at over $7 when it falls will be in for a haircut. The total float of this company is soon to be 4 billion IMO. Did not the management say they would issue more shares to retain their employees due to the fall in share price. That only means further devaluation in anyone who purchase from $17 through $45.

      Stay grounded in reality, and do not believe the hype that the market manipulators, media, and everyone who stands to gain at your loss is throwing out at you. If you want to know why there is an increasing gap between the middle class and the less than 1%, here is an example in the making. Hype and wealth transfer from the 99% to the 1% WILLINGLY like sheep being made to believe. Investing is not evil. Being irrational and greedy in your investment decisions is, and expecting quick returns may lead to huge losses in your portfolio.

      Sentiment: Strong Sell

    • Well said!! I am surprised by FBs actions last week. I don't see why anyone is so dumb to invest into FB. The ads simply never ever work. I have a FB page and had it for quite sometime but I have never clicked on an ad ever. Their numbers are highly over valued and pumped like no other stock I have ever seen. Everyone knows this is manipulated and will soon touch reality. I say this will crash hard before the end of the year.

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      • my_views_on_this_topic my_views_on_this_topic Nov 20, 2012 12:14 PM Flag

        Has any investor wondered why a company which went at $104 BILLION valuation currently have only $8 billion in liquid and hard assets and still trying to sustain a market value of $40 billion?

        WHERE IS THE REST OF THE MONEY?

        In the pockets of 3000 few people, more accurately 20 insiders (some are corporations).

        Transfer of wealth Lesson 101.

        Do you really believe that Insiders will pour all their personal cash back into FB to give you your money back if you lost already? IMHO, a strong NO. They are looking for a way out at a maximum possible gain. Make no mistake, they will sell to everyone elses losses.

        Capital gains tax increases SHARPLY in 2013. That would mean that if employees sell there shares in 2013 or after they would pay an ADDITIONAL $10k on every $100k in taxes over and above the approximately 18k they already pay). That same money could be used for a lot of other consumption purchases. Why believe that FB can make 10% interest in one year? It makes more sense to purchase and buy after the entire hype has died down and Mark had sold his additional 500 MILLION shares around October 2013.

        Insiders will continue to sell, IMO, not just to the end of the year, but until October next year.

        Sentiment: Strong Sell

      • LOL on ya all!!

    • FB is an unethical scam. They are currently around 122 P/E of their earnings. Do you really believe they can rise 122x when they have already portrayed themselves at a $104 BILLION (at $45/share) company. Even companies like LinkedIn are looking at losses but they can manage a bit more growth considering the number of their shares issued are a fraction of the 3.x billion shares FB has issued (slowly creeping towards 4 billion shares and diluting current investor share value). Besides LinkedIn only went with an IPO of a few billion dollars compared to FB's $104 billion. However IMHO, both will eventually be burned like a lot of tech companies out there right now who have far overtaken their real value.

      Sentiment: Strong Sell

 
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