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  • coke_bull coke_bull Apr 5, 2005 2:37 PM Flag

    Employees - Act before it is too late

    Guys

    You have been the silent tormented majority for too long. Tell your friends to post here, and let us vote at the shareholder meetings to turn these losers out of their management positions, before the CCE stock in our MESIP plans becomes worthless.

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    • I agree and have sent that first hand as well. It is digusting how they act as the workers in the trenches work their asses off

    • Comparing CCE to Saddam is a little extreme. Alm and crew are inept, I agree.

      I know first hand of the abuse at the top. I've been with them when Sr. Management would order $60 shots of brandy after spending the day telling a division to cut cost. They would order $200 -$300 bottles of wine with dinner. They tried to outdo each other as to who was the bigger wine "snob". They would fly on full fare flights for 2 or 3 hour meetings. The entitlement mentality is almost obscene from the excesses. This isn't too different from most large companies, but it doesn't make it right. The top should set the tone for the rest, and the tone at the top is me first.

    • Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending them or what they do at CCE. I'm only saying I used to think it was the worst until I had had enough and went elsewhere. The same stuff was happening there to an extent too. My overall opinion of exec. leadership of most companies isn't very high - too much of a sense of entitlement at the expense of others.
      I read the posts regarding layoff plans and division realignment plans being presented to the Board, but if they look at history, they would see that those plans rarely if ever produce sustainable positive results. CCE has added and eliminated divisions many times over the years and ended up with the same poor results. I bet there is a huge charge to execute the reorg too. Who pays for that? the shareholders of course. Big KO had a massive layoff and lost most of its talant a few years ago. Those are only quick shots in the arm which allow the leadership time to catch a breath and determine what to do. If you don't believe me, ask any management professor who studies restructures and he'll tell you the same thing.
      And another thing; you are correct regarding the chosen few. Too many people being promoted based on their tennis playing skills, partying compatibility, color of skin, etc. Everything but PROVEN ability. Again, anyone not believe me? Look at history and how many people were promoted, couldn't cut it, and got moved to another job or suddenly had alot of 'help' to get their job done. Unfortunately, I doubt much will change, just more layoffs, and a new cast of characters.

    • ccebear,

      You hit the nail on the head. Inept corrupt executive management has ripped off shareholders (and employees). Alm has staffed his management team with morons, who are not qualified for their jobs. People get promoted based on whose family or friends they are. I have seen all new outside hires leave the company in couple of years, since they could tolerate the corruption.

      Hard for CCE to attract any good executive talent with this kind of environment. Time to get rid of the Alm mafia.

    • layoffs will not help cce. the real problem is poor execution, starting from the very top. the boys in atlanta wait for the cash to roll in form the division and then go on a spending spree. atlanta add no value to the division, in terms of strategic direction or anything else, to the divisions across N.A. cce has major structural problems, which is compounded by enormously high debt and piss poor executive management. KO seems to be getting its act together but cce is blowing in the wind. a layoff here or there means nothing. it's time for some major changes. the independent bottlers execute MUCH better on the ground everyday. here in Texas, we continue to lose share in every market from dallas to houston to san antonio. customers hate us but only put up with us because of our entrenched share, which again is slipping. product placements are horrible and no one cares. as long as cce exits in its current form KO will suffer greatly.

    • layoffs will not help cce. the real problem is poor execution, starting from the very top. the boys in atlanta wait for the cash to roll in form the division and then go on a spending spree. atlanta add no value to the division, in terms of strategic direction or anything else, to the divisions across N.A. cce has major structural problems, which is compounded by enormously high debt and piss poor executive management. KO seems to be getting its act together but cce is blowing in the wind. a layoff here or there means nothing. it's time for some major changes. the independent bottlers execute MUCH better on the ground everyday. here in Texas, we continue to lose share in every market from dallas to houston to san antonio. customers hate us but only put up with us because of our entrenched share, which again is slipping. product placements are horrible and no one cares. as long as cce exits in its current form KO will suffer.

    • cokecce48,

      Send me your address, and I will mail you a Hooters Atlanta menu with COKE. The menus in Atlanta & Florida are the same, you dummy.
      (Not that management cares if Hooters serves Coke, they go there for the hooters)

      You need to come out in the open, we need to know who you are. I heard the management farts will be the first to be downsized. Hope your sorry ass does not get laid off in the new round of layoffs(starting in May).

    • Cokecce48,

      It gets worse. I saw several top management types at hooters the other day. After Hooters, this esteemed group moved to one of the strip clubs in Atlanta. Guess who covered these expenses? They were submitted as business expenses.

      Being drunk at company expense is much worse than being drunk, won't you agree.

      Bull, Were they in Atlanta or in Florida? In your original message (above) you said Atlanta. Then you send a Florida menu. Again, I still am keeping my stance that you are full of bullogna.

    • Oldcce,

      What other "worse" companies are you talking about. CCE is probably as bad as it gets.
      Only place I worked where FEAR and INTIMIDATION are the only management principles followed. SELFISHNESS or "Putting SOME CHOSEN FEW people first" is the underlying philosophy of Alm and friends.

      I see a lot of parallel's between Alm and Saddam Hussein; and CCE and pre-war Iraq as far as management styles are concerned.

      Who will be the Bush to liberate CCE?

    • Give em Hell Coke_Bull

      Just you watch, he wont have any good answer for your post, just more of his crap.

      I could tell you about MANY expense accounts that have been padded in this company, Many EXECS would be in deep trouble if I talked.
      Thats the good thing about being near a copy machine or having access to someones laptop and E-number......

      Cokecce48, what branch did you say you were from, or are you going to be quiet now?????

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