> CA disassembled the code and thats the
reason why up to 9708 of
> TNG 2.1 and later the
DSM was not working very good at all.
still has the source code. The reason why the product
just keeps getting worse, is the way in which CA
developement, support and QA are structured.
absolutely *no* communication between these
Development does whatever they want and maintains dozens of
physically separate source code bases for each TNG version
and OS version (NT and UNIX flavors). None of these
source bases physically share the same source code, so
no support fixes will ever find their way into the
next version of TNG unless they are manually coded by
someone. After hundreds of fixes, no one will ever do this
willingly unless informed by their superiors that a
"client" is threatening to unplug TNG and this is the
hottest "escalation" on the planet.
This is the
way it is done on Arcserve, Inoculan and most of CA's
"client server" products. Most management running this
circus either has no clue or is afraid of disrupting the
"tried and true" way it is done here at CA.
do you think that each new version of a CA product
just gets worse than the previous version?
left this board the other day, how civil it has
become. It just goes to prove a theory that was posted. A
L L the bashing is coming from 1 (or 2), people
using different ID's. This guy is on a mission.
I think it will be usefull for readers of this
chat to know that the very same group of people who
developed OS/EYE*NODE in DAC, which was bought by Leagent
to become Agent*Works which in turn was bought by CA
to become Agent Technology is still with CA and none
of us have immidiate plans to leave the company. As
one of architects of "what called DSM" I was quite
amused to learn that all of us leave the company and
even more abused by the idea of reverse enginiring of
DSM from bynary images. I am affraid that who ever
wrote that message does not have an idea about what is
going on in Agent Technology group and does not
understand how software get developed either.
Ever since CA bought CMSI I have been trying to
decide if CA was a company I wanted to work for. Well I
have decide it isn't. I ask a number of CA employees
why I would want to work for CA. The answers where
along the lines of it such a great place to work,
management really cares etc.. Then when pressed for details
usually the the answer was you get breakfast or such and
such magazine rates it one of the best companies to
work for. Bottom line no real reason.
the other hand I see many reasons, all small reasons
but togather the add up. Reasons such as going
backwards 40% on vesting, 101 annoying rules that make it
harder to work, CA wants to use consultants as part of a
package including CA software. Instead of using
consultants on a t&m basis.
I have read the
messages on this board and some CA defenders and stock
holders say they are glad people quit, less overhead,
must have been a loser, who cares so long as the stock
goes up etc. Well in the past maybe that was true but
things change. CA is getting into the services bussiness
because software margins are getting harder to maintain.
So everytime a Consultant in the GPS division quits
that means lost billable hours which means LOST
profits. Do I think that the lost of my billable hours has
any great impact, no of course not. However if CA
continues like they have it might effect the bottom line
and it certainly makes it harder to attracted good
As for DB2, almost all product authors have left,
alot of maint
programmers stayed. Most of them have
the creativity of an
intestine. As for management
most have left, one guy still
here but he's the
ex-utilities manager and we all know how the
utilities are in a league of there own. Support?
gotta be kidding, this is CA you derelict.
are smarter than you think ... perhaps thye don't
like all of the goings on around them but they are
pocketing a nice check every two weeks ... there are in
fact a number of CA people making above average income
... belive it or not Long Island is also a nice place
and a lot of the CAers i know have a 10-15 minute
commute ... depending on where you are in your career
that would beat an hour train ride to NYC each way for
more money ...kinda like some of us investors that
invest in companies to make money and don't really care
about all of the underpinnings as long as the company
keeps churning out eps ...
never had a job with any other company as an
adult ... I find it hard to believe that after 13 years
there u don't see some grain of truth in almost every
story posted here ... i was ther for 13 years too and I
believe almost every story ... witnessed many ... however
... i just want the stock price to go up so i can
milk it ... filthy rich americans ... what a country
... u gotta love it ...
Kiplinger's hit the new's stands today. There is
an article about http://riceen.com He is written
about on page 115. He called each more correctly on CA.
It is getting lots of exposure and he predicted this
stock to spike.
I thought I remember a letter from Sanjay saying
it would be 2 years, but I checked the CA website
and the letter to DB2 Plat customers appeared to have
I've heard CA won't commit to
customers in writing to supporting Plat DB2 products beyond
Also, any reports on staff cuts in
the DB2 product support?