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  • pebble.ubetcha pebble.ubetcha Dec 18, 2012 4:19 PM Flag

    hey mr c

    from your reply to me (which i can't seem to reply to)

    Now Pebs wants to revive the state as caregiver for the mental health patients. First of all, it will be expensive beyond belief and second, it won't do much good for those who are mentally-challenged. Just another human warehouse effort; civil commitment for the good of the patient and for the safety of the society without a trial.

    i never said a thing about the "state" altho that's probably the best way.

    as for the cost of state-run mental facilities, at least part of that cost would come from relieving the schools of the cost of providing spec educ, etc.

    i'm certainly not an expert on the subject or even close to being one, but one thing i have no doubt about.

    and that is, if society want's to be safe from the atrocities of last week, a system must be found to isolate those are deemed capable of doing such terrible acts.

    if society can't come up with a solution, then they should #$%$ every time one of these events occur and simply say shxxxt happens.

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    • acerbicabrasivejudgmental acerbicabrasivejudgmental Dec 18, 2012 10:18 PM Flag

      Pebs, this evening my wife and I hosted a small neighborhood get-together to enjoy some holiday cheer and discuss important current events.

      In my conversation with the wife of our former city councilman, I was surprised to hear this mother of three, grandmother of many, comment that bad things do happen and that we just have to move on with our lives. This lady attends church regularly; she does pray an awfully lot. Can Faith be a rock behind which one can hide and believe that if a murderous rampage happened in Newtown CT which took the lives of lots of people including 20 first-graders, it was meant to happen and we must be prepared to absorb the blow and move on?

      My rational mind is just not that accommodating and accepting. The massacre was an outrage that we should not accept as being inevitable. Society needs to protect itself from the insane, the malcontents, and the haters whom it harbors. Tim McVeigh should have sounded an alarm in Oklahoma City that evil American will kill without compunction. 9/11 should have been a very loud warning that outside evil forces are determined to kill us. Repeated mass shootings by nutcases should have warned us that nobody is safe anywhere unless adequate security has a prevention effect. We have not learned, we have become better prepared, and there will be more of these senseless acts of murder by the mentally ill. All IMHO.

      Mr. Congeniality

      • 1 Reply to acerbicabrasivejudgmental
      • in this msg you said:

        The massacre was an outrage that we should not accept as being inevitable. Society needs to protect itself from the insane, the malcontents, and the haters whom it harbors.

        in your previous msg you said:

        3. FREEDOM! "It is better that 99 dangerous people are roaming the streets with the propensities for great harm than ONE innocent person be incarcerated and lose his liberty."

        you also said:

        We have chosen another path and must suffer the consequences of such optimism and embrace of fairness.

        so, with remarks like that , how can you criticize your friend who commented that:

        bad things do happen and that we just have to move on with our lives.

 
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