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  • misgigi misgigi Jun 30, 1999 10:02 PM Flag

    Broken Stock

    After all the recent announcements, the positive
    fed action today, the chart, the tape action over the
    last two months, and the careful touting by key
    analysts on CNBC, etc. it should be obvious that the
    market makers are holding this stock steady for the BIG
    holders to ease out of their positions. The only thing
    that might cause a change might be a deal with AT&T,
    @HOME, or IBM. The PORTAL scene is changing too fast for
    AOL to recover!!

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    • has not been lowering its prices. I asked why
      Dell would lower its prices to compete with a cheap
      Korean PC company in response to this recent AOL deal.


      It's reasonable to believe that computer technology
      will continue to improve and evolve. Black and white
      televisions were once very expensive, but over time, prices
      dropped and margins eroded. However, television
      technology continued to improve and evolve. Today, we have
      the option of big screen televisions and HDTV, at
      much higher profit margins and with expanding markets.


      Regarding ISPs, I thought that you might enjoy the attached
      article. Enjoy your week!

      Tuesday June 22 8:42 AM
      ET

      Dell Sees Profit In Europe Online
      By
      Neal Boudette

      FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Dell
      Computer Corp (Nasdaq:DELL - news) said Tuesday it expects
      its European online service to generate profits as
      well as attract buyers for its personal
      computers.

      The world's leading direct marketer of PCS earlier
      said it has launched a ``free'' Internet service in
      Germany, its second in Europe after entering the UK market
      last month.

      It also plans to expand the
      service, called DellNet, to France, Sweden and the Benelux
      countries in the next few weeks, and later to other western
      European countries.

      DellNet ``will clearly be
      driving a revenue stream to Dell,'' Gordon Ballantyne,
      director of Dell Online in Europe, told
      Reuters.

      ``The return on our investment will be in line with
      what Dell expects in any of its investments,'' he
      added. ``There will be a profit
      component.''

      Dell's German Internet service is similar to the free
      services that have caused a sensation in Britain. Users
      pay no subscription fee and only the local phone
      charges for the time they are online.

      The company
      plans to pre-load DellNet software on its PC so that
      buyers can get online easily. But the company hopes
      DellNet will also attract other users looking for a
      low-priced, well-organized service, Ballantyne
      said.

      DellNet software is available for free from company web
      sites in the UK and Germany.

      ``We see an
      opportunity to replicate free services across Europe and to
      give people the right customer experience on the
      web,'' he said.

      In Germany, phone charges for
      DellNet use range between three pfennigs per minute late
      at night use and eight pfennigs per minute during
      peak hours on weekdays.

      Deutsche Telekom AG's
      (NYSE:DT - news) T-Online service, the leading access
      provider in Germany, charges a total of six pfennigs per
      minute around the clock, plus a monthly subscription
      fee.

      Mannesmann Arcor AG, a unit of Mannesmann AG, also offers
      Internet access for six pfennigs per minute with no
      monthly charges.

      Free Internet services have taken
      off in Britain since Dixons Group Plc started its
      Freeserve unit last autumn.

      AOL Europe, a venture of
      America Online Inc (NYSE:AOL - news) and Bertelsmann AG,
      is considering switching to a free pricing scheme to
      counter Freeserve in the UK and T-Online in Germany.

    • You write:
      "I am saying that free ISP in UK
      and free computer deals are terrible.. Anywya, every
      time company lowers prices or gives anything for free-
      its stock goes down... AOL should worry about
      improving their existing service, not getting into the
      fireld they have no idea about...I am serious, if it
      hurts its erning- AOL's stock is gonna have hard time,
      cause its priced to perfection "

      People are
      getting a bit smarter than that now...
      The move to
      flat rate access was dismissed as disastrous several
      years back but it ended up being a resounding success
      and AOL's huge customer base means that companies
      queue up to do deals...



      ps
      You sound
      so much like EEE-Mike

    • Wiggin just a little upset that us daytraders
      make it up and down unlike u people who sit on it
      forever. By the time it goes to where u want it a
      daytrader has made ten times the amount of u. Well not
      everybody has the touch nothing to be pissed off about
      though.

    • "3.they will earn around $2/share next year "

      How do you figure this for "fact" you asshole.
      Sounds like you're the hypester to me.

    • this is (OT)regarding TLTG...
      OK-you asked
      for the facts, here they are...

      1.TLTG is the
      symbol
      2.they are an internet company
      3.they
      will earn around $2/share next year
      4.Their stock
      price is around $9/share
      5.They pay stock dividends

      6.They are in the VOIP business
      7.They also have a
      web portal
      8.they said they will spin-off the web
      portal in an IPO
      9.their management has followed
      through with every promise ever made to date
      10.their
      growth rate is very high
      11.again-internet stock
      $9/share, will earn around $2/share next year


      ps...this is not hype-these are the cold facts...
      also,
      please check out our board at TLTG for any more info, no
      hypesters please...
      shiittforbrains

    • Why don't you just stick it up your ass?

    • But I am saying that free ISP in UK and free
      computer deals are terrible.. Anywya, every time company
      lowers prices or gives anything for free- its stock goes
      down... AOL should worry about improving their existing
      service, not getting into the fireld they have no idea
      about...I am serious, if it hurts its erning- AOL's stock
      is gonna have hard time, cause its priced to
      perfection

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    • bimbo_barbie_rules_the_world bimbo_barbie_rules_the_world Jul 1, 1999 12:45 AM Flag

      dell already HAS been lowering their prices. They
      are also going to be auctioning off pc's coming back
      from leases. It's the low end of the market that has
      the biggest growth.

      Still dell has higher
      margins in the corporate market. This will EVENTUALLY see
      pricing pressures as corporate types realize that cheaper
      pc's run reliably.

      The pc biz is COMMODITY biz.
      That is exactly why the box makers are making such a
      big effort to enter the isp biz. Margins in the box
      biz are being sqeezed.

      Only a matter of time
      for dell to face more competition in the corporate
      market, just like the isps are getting more competition
      in their markets.

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