"Users looking for a new PC might want to wait for a round of price cuts that are expected soon from Intel, the world's largest maker of microprocessors."
Talk about ruining an industry... just because INTC is going broke, they want to ruin the whole sector...
Intel gutted old fab12 from 200mm to 300mm and it is in full blast already. Also, the new fab32, it will be running 45nm. Fab32 is in Chandler, Arizona. And yes, it did cost less money to gutt fab12 to 300mm.
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"Intel is not building new fabs, rather gutting and retrofitting old fabs to avoid billions in decomission costs."
I wish I could believe the answer is that simple.
I think what's happening is that both Intel and AMD have plans and secrets and surprises, but each think the other company doesn't.
Let me just speculate here: Suppose that AMD has working prototype chips with megs of Z-ram L3 cache, and they think Intel doesn't know it.
Now, suppose Intel have a working prototype of a chip with IMC and their proprietary HTT-like bus, I forget the name now, plus say they got tri-gate transistors to work like a charm, and they think they have the advantage, and that AMD doesn't know it. That's a kind of situation that could lead to both sides being optimistic.
it appears you don't know what you are talking about
Well, that's exactly it:
I don't have enough info to confirm or deny the Core 2 hype, or the quad Klingon hype, or the K8L hype, for that matter. But I do suspect, corporate espionage being the way of life these days, that if as dougroyce says, Intel has been testing Core 2's for a year and a half, probably AMD has had Core 2's in their labs for at least a year, just as probably Intel have K8L prototypes at their labs.
If we accept the above premise, we could try and guess how much of the hype is true by looking at what the companies are doing, and try to guess their optimism or pessimism behind the public facades.
And what do we see?
We see a confusing optimism on both sides. :-/
AMD is spending 2.5B upgrading both fabs in Dresden, probably 0.5B upgrading Charter for 65nm, and considering spending another 2.5B in NY State. Talk about optimism...
Intel is building 2 new fabs, and upgrading other fabs. Talk about optimism...
This is rather confusing, I must say.
i have some dell, but intel is the real deal. you can tout some vaporfab all day, but it is intel that is actually building fabs. 2 are currently under construction to support 45nm along with the development site in oregon currently tweaking 45nm. and 2 are in the planning stages for 32nm.
Mr buffet...if you get a chance to break even...it may be in your best interest to take it...no monopolys in this market anymore....that's worth less than 100 billion market cap......