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  • jesse_james_blitch jesse_james_blitch May 2, 2009 9:11 AM Flag

    INTC closes above 16 in next few

    20+ is a given in my opinion for 6-12 months forward. Even 25 in 2 years.

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    You expect 20+ in as little as 6 months and "even" 25 in 2 years?

    20+ means 21, 22, 23 to most and you think that level could be acheived in 6 months.

    after the stock reaches 20+ you then expect it to be basically range bound for 1 1/2 years?

    you're a dolt.

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    • "you're a dolt"

      Please do not insult the citizens of Titusville in this fashion. Max is in a category all by himself. He's at least six sigma below mu on the normal intelligence distribution.

      • 2 Replies to titusvilleturnip
      • Is IQ 157 good enough for you? I tested myself at 17 and was 128, then at 25 i was 140 and the last i took was 157. When you use your brain and your education lasts a lifetime you actually improve your IQ . And there is a lot more to a brain that pure IQ. A great deal more that is necessary for that IQ to actually deliver something valuable. Einstein had actually a lot smaller IQ than several prominent mathematicians and other physicists of the 20th century. About 165. IQs of 190 or 180 or 200 are very typical of great mathematicians, musicians and other people that even never had formal education . What is common however to many of them is that they cannot communicate with other people effectively. They keep others at a distance. But isnt that the biggest lesson of them all? That we are in this thing we call civilization together. Humanity is at the core of the selfish gene . This (education) is not a race to create winners and losers , this is an effort to improve everyone and produce happiness and knowledge. You can say whatever you want for me but all the lengthy posts you see are not because i cant provide answers in 1 liners and basically declare to people to go f themselves if they get it or not as if i dont give a damn. I only produce lengthy posts to explain myself better, to illustrate what i say with examples and actually teach people like me 20 years ago something they can use today instead of playing the market like gamblers, inevitably experiencing gamblers ruin problem, even if good traders.

        I wish i had someone that could teach me a few things i had to learn on my own when i started trading the markets in the 90s. I wish i had someone introduce me to derivatives with responsibility as a very efficient way to manage risk and not as a fast way to riches irresponsibly, instead of me daytrading only shares early on for 50-100%-150% of my account at a time, without derivative privilleges. And i still wish i had someone teaching me something here today that i may learn later on my own and could use now. So if i have to produce easy to follow, maybe boring to some, posts , so be it . I am happy people at least will get me and feel good about themselves even if that trivializes me. I am here to learn and to help others learn too . That way we can trade effectively, get better at it and maybe become friends too. Why not. Care to elaborate what is friendship in Titusville?

        Some will find it amusing to see someone post as if taking seriously this board. They will proclaim go get a life and other insults. I always thought what we choose to spend time at is what we make it! So what do we make it by one liners, ads and self serving irrelevant links and insults? We make it a place that has managed to make us feel that someone who actually gives a damn needs a life...

      • "Titsville"

        What is that, a topless bar somewhere in Florida?

    • Do you understand logic as in math logic or not? I said even 25 which means 25 at least you smart alec (i didnt say at max 25) ! Of course if we clear 20 we can go to 30 in 2 years or more. Those are just targets that are realistic in my opinion. If the market recovers as the economy some claim will start hinting things are turning we will indeed see 20 before january. If that fails or it is then sold and we drop sub 20 for a period yes we will get to 25+ later because the economy is bound to recover when you have no idiots in the administration but actually intelligent decent people with love for science. There will be massive infrastructure build up so yes 25 is reasonable. I never mentioned 25 as a high for the next 2 years. I cannot say 30 not because it wont happen but because it will ahve some 20-30% chance not 50% or 60%. I can say however 25 is a reasonable number to count on with say some 60-70% confidence. Of course if we go to 20 and things are ok we can see 30 then in 12-18 months. The reason i said 25 is because we will not only need the economy to expand nicely but intel earnings to also rise to some 5-7 bil $ or over 1-1.2 per share and this will take time to happen! So we can rally on good hints and future anticipation of better earnings but then after some rally we will actually need to justify PE and other metrics and this will take time. Unless you think they will award intel a 30 pe any time soon before it delivers. Intel will have to deliver 5-10 bil/yr in the next 2 years at some point and then it will be indeed flirting with 30 since 10 bil per year is a pe 17 and easily i can imagine pe 20 or 22 if things have started to look rosy again in terms of cash flow. So give me 1.2 1.5 per share per year and we will see 30. But we will need to deliver. Right now its a hint of recovery possibility but in 2 years we need actual earnings to justify any optimism towards 20 this year and over 25 later. You see 20 will not happen because earnings are great. 20 will happen because people will start expecting happily a recovery seeing other nice things happen all around. But then the real work has to prove itself! So that 20 wont be justified due to earninsg it will be justified due to sentiment momentum . Thats why we can rally and then take a break until we rally for 50% further after proving we are not kidding ourselves as a company.

      Is it clear now? Care to apologize for thinking i am making moronic statements? Who is the dolt now? Or rather who is the eager to not think outside the box?

 
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