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  • theblueredmonk theblueredmonk Aug 3, 2011 6:26 AM Flag

    Apple May Merge iOS, Mac OS X Into Single Platform in 2012-13

    "We expect OS merger to start in 2012-13 and complete in 2016. Our preliminary view is that Apple can use a 32-bit ARM architecture to address the vast majority of the OS X ecosystem's needs in 2012-13 except for high-end professional devices. When 64-bit ARM is available in 2016, we believe Apple will have a single OS and hardware architecture," said Misek.

    *cough*

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    • gregory.lynn@rocketmail.com gregory.lynn Aug 3, 2011 5:54 PM Flag

      I thought we agreed to table the benchmark argument until the playing field is level. :)

      But now that you mention it, didn't the Atom outperform the A8 on every other measure from that article? I do think I remember the integer benchmark being pretty close, but the others, not so much.

      Again, not really fair comparison. Let's see what we get when Honeycomb is running on both Atom and Arm based tablets. Should be real soon.

    • I call BS on that one, Arm SOCs out last (battery) not outperform Atom. -----

      You posted a link not to long ago comparing a hobbled A8 (clock and memory bandwidth) with an Atom. The A9 is 25% faster than the A8 for the same clock/bandwidth and these A9's can be clocked to 2Ghz. On a like for like basis, these A9's do out perform Atom on integer benchmarks.

    • Whatever dude...

    • No way a single core ARM can outperform a single core ATOM at the same Ghz.

      Yeah right... 22nm is JUST a die shrink. LOL.
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      Do you know what the really funny thing is? An ARM clocked at a *lower* frequency can out perform that Atom...(Integer that is).

      I said IF on the die shrink. ARM also are going through an arch. revamp...

    • No way a single core ARM can outperform a single core ATOM at the same Ghz.

      Yeah right... 22nm is JUST a die shrink. LOL.

    • As for the A6 (multi-core) outperforming the current single core atom.. sure..
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      Nope, single core (Cortex A9) can outperform a single core Atom.

      As for 22nm, if it's just a die shrink a 40nm ARM core will still use less power. ARM next year will be on 28nm.

      As for Core, it's in a different league:)

    • Yeah.. some printers will work and some legacy devices and software will work.. but you never know which.

      As for the A6 (multi-core) outperforming the current single core atom.. sure..

      But with 22nm and a revamped ATOM architecture, ARM will be a DUD.

      Besides in the PC/laptop segment, ARM will have to go up against Intel's core in performance.

      I am not worried about Windows on ARM. The only advantage ARM has is battery life, and they'll lose that when ATOM is on 22nm.

    • I run applications written in Delphi 7 every day but Windows 8 on ARM will not run them. Windows 8 on IA will run them.

      Windows 8 on ARM will run applications in a browser and that requires completely new applications.

    • It means, printers (require legacy drivers) and other hardware (cameras, usb devices) won't work, besides games and legacy software.

      Why buy an ARM "computer" which may or may not work with stuff that you already have, when you can buy an Intel (ATOM or core) computer with the same battery life and BETTER PERFORMANCE?

      Windows on ARM is just FLUFF. Will never take off.
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      Microsoft has already demoed printers working with an ARM Win 8 device but you are right about driver issues.

      ARM (Cortex A9) out performs Atom, while using less power and is much cheaper. It's also a SoC, meaning it's BOM is also cheaper.

      As for fluff, if legacy becomes an issue, then you are right it wont take off.

    • It means, printers (require legacy drivers) and other hardware (cameras, usb devices) won't work, besides games and legacy software.

      Why buy an ARM "computer" which may or may not work with stuff that you already have, when you can buy an Intel (ATOM or core) computer with the same battery life and BETTER PERFORMANCE?

      Windows on ARM is just FLUFF. Will never take off.

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