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  • ltisteve@verizon.net ltisteve Nov 14, 2011 12:12 AM Flag

    What if

    I know this is coming out of left field but in my mind it could be a possibility. In smart phones, for the meantime you really don't need to have an x86 processor. Perhaps someday, but for the next couple of years it's not going to buy you much.

    The worst thing about Intel is that they are very secretive. Stuff just shows up on the market without warning from time to time.

    A super easy thing to do for Intel is to buy an ARM license. They have in the past, but being just another fab isn't something I can see Intel doing.

    What if Intel has a RISC processor for phones that they developed on their own? I know, the first thing you'll say is that it won't run on iOS or Android. But, hmm, Android. Google and Intel have been very chummy lately. Perhaps coding Android for another RISC processor isn't out of the question.

    Intel's fabs, Intel's transistors and other technologies in play. I have no reason to believe that this would happen, but what if? What would happen?

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    • A super easy thing to do for Intel is to buy an ARM license. They have in the past, but being just another fab isn't something I can see Intel doing.

      What if Intel has a RISC processor for phones that they developed on their own? I know, the first thing you'll say is that it won't run on iOS or Android. But, hmm, Android. Google and Intel have been very chummy lately. Perhaps coding Android for another RISC processor isn't out of the question.
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      Intel have various ARM licences and are using them in existing products. Intel also have an ARM architectural licence so they could design their own core based on the ARM ISA. See:

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/17/otellini_on_arm/

      As for designing from scratch, could be done but they have to build the entire ecosystem. They would be better buying MIPS.

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      • ltisteve@verizon.net ltisteve Nov 14, 2011 11:04 AM Flag

        I know I am thinking outside the box on this one, but I just wonder what Intel could have up it's sleeve. I can speculate that at one time in the late 80's and early 90's it was quite clear that Intel's position in the server market was going to be challenged by RISC processors. With the staff that they had at the time (which is smaller than it is now) they could have started work on a RISC processor of their own, and have it on hand as a fallback position. Fairly unlikely but it's a possibility.

        Of all the things people suggested, MIPS seems to make the most sense. I can't see Intel ever being another ARM supplier and they seems to have the cash to buy just about any company that they want.

        What is most likely to happen is the Atom processor that they've been talking about all along. If for whatever reason this processor can't perform to a level that would make it viable for smart phones than yes they could buy a company like MIPS.

        When you have a sunk cost like Intel does with this FABS there is an A plan, B plan, C Plan and so on down the alphabet. ARM maybe is on there, but not near the top. Intel seems to want to be in a position where they supply processors that you simply can't get elsewhere.

        I know long term that x86 on phones will make sense when OS/X and Windows will both have their platforms on the phones. In the short term a smart phone is a device that will run one or two versions of whatever OS that is on it, and so far nothing is pointing to the need of x86 in phones for the next year or two.

    • 'What if Intel has a RISC processor for phones that they developed on their own?'

      Intel could buy MIPS for a cheap $300m if it wanted the original classical RISC and which is already low-power and 64-bit and in phones.

    • What if the queen had a d i c k?
      Would she be the king?

    • I'm using all of my imagination on a dividend announcement tomorrow. LOL

    • "Intel is that they are very secretive. Stuff just shows up on the market "

      INtel's channel is so large...
      We all know about it a year in advance...

      "What if Intel has a RISC processor for phones that they developed on their own? I know, the first thing you'll say is that it won't run on iOS or Android. But, hmm, Android. Google and Intel have been very chummy lately. Perhaps coding Android for another RISC processor isn't out of the question. "

      You need to back off the Kool-Aid...

      "I have no reason to believe that this would happen"

      Nor does anyone else !!!!

 
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