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  • marsavian marsavian Nov 21, 2011 2:56 AM Flag

    Fabrication Primer for Fanbois-Part I

    'Well, the thing is that ARM needs a fab, or a series of fabs, rather than each and every individual ARM shop. It certainly isn't feasible for each ARM shop to have a fab and if all the big ones built fabs, what would the small ones do?'

    ARM doesn't make any chips so it doesn't need any fabs. Samsung has its own fabs due to its total semiconductor volume. The rest can use TSMC or GF.

    'Sure, Apple can afford a fab. But what if Apple actually wanted to build a fab? First, they don't have the technology. Next, it would take them ten years to enter the foundry business. And last it would be a disaster for their shareholders. So, no - Apple isn't going to build a fab.'

    Apple could just buy IBM's NY Fab and its technology if it wanted to.

    'You're stuck with TSMC and that's it. And they can't keep up with Intel. Hmmm. So, what does all of this mean? Hmmm. Thinking. Oh, yeah - it means that ARM has a huge honking fabrication problem that can't be solved'

    ARM cores are much smaller and more power efficient (RISC) than x86, they don't need to keep up as I have demonstrated with actual examples time after time unlike you and your vague hand waving but hey keep knocking yourself repeating this 'fabrication problem' nonsense if it floats your boat, it means nothing to the rest of the world. INTC production will not be 100% 22nm at the end of 2012 either.

    Meanwhile back in the real world quad-core 40nm ARM phones will be coming out in days while Intel still struggles to produce a 32nm single-core phone chip for sale. That shows how absurd and irrelevant this fantasy 'fabrication problem' is in the real world ;-).

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