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  • wallisweaver wallisweaver Dec 19, 2011 11:47 PM Flag

    Intel's Growing Superiority over ARM in Smartphones

    1.) The Intel Medfield FFRD ((Form Factor Reference Design) )was "best of class" on all performance benchmarks in comparison to the top five best selling smartphones:

    Best Browser Mark: Internet Browsing Experience
    Best SunSpider: JavaScript Benchmark
    Best GLBench2.1: Graphics Benchmark

    2.) Intel is shrinking analog designs.

    "According to the advance program from ISSCC Intel will present news about a dual core Atom processor with integrated Wi-Fi. This is, as far as we know, the first time that analog has been shrunk below 65nm as the Atom processor will actually be fabbed in 32nm.
    Shrinking the analog parts has high priority at Intel as it will allow, in the future, for complete chipset integration in their processors thereby saving both design time, space and power.
    As it stands right now analog designs are several generations behind digital designs, but Intel thinks that they can continue the aggressive analog shrink for several more generations. This aggressive scaling will for sure give both AMD and ARM a run for their money."

    http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/22/intel%E2%80%99s-analog-shrink-is-for-real/

    3.) Intel, Inside make NFC deal

    "Now Chipzilla is putting the final pieces of the equation in place by landing a licensing deal with Inside Secure. The company specializes in contactless payment systems and will be lending its Microread, Securead and Open NFC products to Intel for future chips."

    http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/15/intel-enters-licenseing-deal-with-inside-secure-for-nfc-tech/

    4.) Intel and Mastercard partner on Digital Payments

    "Entering a 16-digit credit card number may be a thing of the past with a new initiative from MasterCard and Intel, which allows users to checkout online by tapping a PayPass-enabled card, tag or smartphone to their Ultrabook. Calling the checkout "safer" and "simpler," Intel is bringing its Identity Protection Technology to the potluck, giving shoppers two-factor authentication and chip-based display protection when forking over that hard earned cash."

    http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/intel-and-mastercard-to-offer-ultrabook-users-safer-nfc-checko/

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    • 'It's not Intel's fault if everything that Qualcomm has put out since the 2009 Snapdragon is total crap and therefore not a top seller.'

      LOL, no all it proves is that performance is not that important for selling a phone which might actually help Medfield when it starts getting crushed by 2+ GHz A15/Kraits ;-).

    • Medfield was compared to the top selling phones. It's not Intel's fault if everything that Qualcomm has put out since the 2009 Snapdragon is total crap and therefore not a top seller.

      You're suggesting that Intel should have compared the Medfield to the latest released phones even if no one will buy them.
      ------

      Are you being serious?

      The most popular phones are rarely the latest/greatest releases. They are usually *years* old...One exception is when a new iPhone is launched.

      Intel *knew* when making a comparison to 'best selling' phones that it would be comparing Medfield to 65/45nm parts. The devil is in the detail.

    • "SO INTel is comparing its 2012 Medfield to 2009 Qualcomm Snapdragon..."

      ***

      Medfield was compared to the top selling phones. It's not Intel's fault if everything that Qualcomm has put out since the 2009 Snapdragon is total crap and therefore not a top seller.

      You're suggesting that Intel should have compared the Medfield to the latest released phones even if no one will buy them.

      You a genius, Gump. If only Otellini had thought of comparing Medfield to the losers...

    • 1.) The Intel Medfield FFRD ((Form Factor Reference Design) )was "best of class" on all performance benchmarks in comparison to the top five best selling smartphones:

      Best Browser Mark: Internet Browsing Experience
      Best SunSpider: JavaScript Benchmark
      Best GLBench2.1: Graphics Benchmark
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      [Have found more details]

      According to:

      http://www.npdgroup.com/wps/portal/npd/u...

      the top five best-selling mobile phone handsets in Q3 were as follows:

      Apple iPhone 4
      Apple iPhone 3GS
      HTC EVO 4G
      Motorola Droid 3
      Samsung Intensity II

      In terms of chipsets:

      Apple iPhone 4 (2010 Apple A4, 800 MHz Cortex A8, 45nm)
      Apple iPhone 3GS (2009, 600 MHZ, Cortex A8, 65nm)
      HTC EVO 4G (2008, 1 GHz Qualcomm QSD8650, 65nm)
      Motorola Droid 3 (2011,1 GHz dual Cortex-A9 TI OMAP4430, 45nm)
      Samsung Intensity II (* 2009, Samsung S3C6410 ARM 11 500 - 800 MHz, 65nm)

      The ARM 11 was released in 2002.
      The Cortex A8 was released in 2005.
      The Cortex A9 was released in 2007

      * Not 100% sure...
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      So Medfield outperforms all the above, yet still doesn't beat them all on power consumption. Hummm....

      • 2 Replies to theblueredmonk
      • 'The Intel Medfield FFRD ((Form Factor Reference Design) )was "best of class" on all performance benchmarks in comparison to the top five best selling smartphones:'

        Simply incredible that's INtel's 2012 Medfield is comparable to competitors products built years ago...

        LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!

      • I know how to find the Intel power consumption specifications. I go to Ark.intel.com and the worst case number is there in a table. They have the Max TDP wattage rating. There is no typical, idle or .... power number for any of the Intel CPU. They just have the max.

        How does one find the equivalent Max TDP power consumption number of the ARM CPU? I have not been able to find these numbers publicized. I can imagine that Apple does not publicize their numbers but TI and QCOM should have them available on their commercial parts.


        For example, how do I find the power consumption for the:
        1 GHz Qualcomm QSD8650, 65nm
        1 GHz dual Cortex-A9 TI OMAP4430, 45nm

 
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