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  • wallisweaver wallisweaver Feb 9, 2012 2:32 PM Flag

    Windows 8 on ARM. Really?

    [If you think today's news was good for ARM, read on...]

    "After being somewhat less than clear about its Windows-on-ARM plans, Microsoft answered a number of lingering questions on Thursday.

    In an interview, Windows unit President Steven Sinofsky said that the first ARM-based machines running Windows 8 should show up around the same time as the first Windows 8 machines running traditional PC processors from Intel and AMD."

    "He didn’t give a time frame for when that would be..."

    "Sinofsky also said that the Windows-on-ARM machines will come with several Office apps — Word, PowerPoint, Excel and OneNote — that have been tuned to run in a very battery-efficient manner. But Sinofsky said that, although those applications will run in the traditional Windows desktop, they will be the only programs allowed to do so, other than components of Windows itself."

    “There are no other compiled dekstop apps that are available,”

    [Gee, no other apps available. LOL]

    "Sinofsky told AllThingsD. All of the other apps for Windows on ARM will be the new-style “Metro” apps.

    Windows 8 for Intel and AMD chips, by contrast, will be able to run all of the kinds of programs that have traditionally run on Windows, inside a Windows 7-like desktop environment."

    [No small difference...]

    "Sinofsky also said that the version of Internet Explorer for Windows on ARM won’t support plugins such as Adobe Flash, noting the trend in the industry away from supporting Flash on mobile devices."

    [Another stick in the ARM spokes...]

    "Sinofsky is also penning a several-thousand-word blog post on the subject — long even for someone known for his lengthy posts. In it, Sinofsky said, he goes into more detail on the company’s plans for Windows on ARM, as well as its rationale for some of the decisions it has made."

    “There have been a lot of questions,” Sinofsky said. “I want to do my best to answer them.”

    [Yeah, we bet he does. Here's mine: How does Microsoft plan to shaft ARM even while purporting to support them?]

    "Sinofsky had already ruled out some sort of emulation mode for running older Windows apps on ARM chips..."

    [Hmmm. Well that looks like a good start in shafting ARM...]

    "Microsoft has said it will deliver an updated “consumer preview” test version of Windows 8 on Feb. 29, with plans to tout the software at an event in Barcelona. However, that test version, like a developer preview released last fall, will be available only for machines running traditional Intel and AMD chips."

    [Boom!!! Bam!!! Another shot to the ARM chin...]

    "Sinofsky said the company is working with chipmakers Nvidia, Qualcomm and Texas Instruments to provide a limited number of test machines to those that make software, hardware and peripherals."

    [Wow, another good move. Limit their number of test machines...]

    "The machines are aimed at developers, though, with easy access to the internals, and the company has no plans to make those machines available to enthusiasts, corporate customers or other testers."

    [The shots just keep coming...]

    "While the goal is to have Windows-on-ARM machines out at the same time Windows 8 lands on new traditional PCs, Sinofsky noted that there is a lot of work to be done to get the entire PC ecosystem ready."

    [ARM is on the mat now with Microsoft grinning down...]

    http://allthingsd.com/20120209/windows-on-arm-complete-with-next-version-of-office-to-arrive-with-rest-of-windows-8/

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    • I read something very different into the article as well. Microsoft was working from an angle of fear. They missed out on the iPod, the iPhone and the iPad and it was looking like small RISC processors were on a trajectory to take over the world. They had to do their long term planning based on where they felt the market was going.

      And what happened? HP and RIM got their first with ARM processors and proprietary operating systems and they failed. Microsoft learned that there was no halo effect with ARM processors. The success Apple was experiencing had more to do with Apple and less to do with the cheap processors in their products.

      So, now that Microsoft decided to turn the 'Wintel' franchise into an open marriage the first thing that Intel does is hook up with Google. This is like having the husband dating Angelina Jolie and the wife is dating the pool boy. Yeah I said it, ARM is the pool boy!

      I find the idea of having a tablet that can run Windows programs enticing. The idea of having a tablet that runs only apps you can download from the Microsoft store is, well, I'll pass.

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      • >And what happened? HP and RIM got their first with ARM processors and proprietary operating systems and they failed. Microsoft learned that there was no halo effect with ARM processors. The success Apple was experiencing had more to do with Apple and less to do with the cheap processors in their products.


        agree 100%. Apple sells an experience. But mark my words. Apple will be selling an INTC fabricated experience by 2013 ... it would be perhaps the last weapon to differentiate Apple from the competition.

    • Nice!

      It is common now a days that some apparently pro-ARM news pops in, Intel stock dips on the news while ARM pops up (not this time). Then it becomes clear that there was nothing new in the news, or it was not pro-ARM afterall. Then everything not only reverts back to pre-news time but also turns into Intel's favor. That is why Intel stock price crossed ARM's today.

    • Very good points Wally!

 
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