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  • getanid61 getanid61 Nov 15, 2012 10:11 AM Flag

    Arm Inside

    extremetechDOTcom/computing/139677-the-threat-of-macs-switching-from-x86-to-arm

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    • Posting an ARM rumor on the Intel board? Rumors are worthless, pal. How pathetic and desperate this guy is. Another day of spam from the ARM marketing department from Getanid61.

    • Apple does not make these changes for small reasons. There is always risk and the Apple "maps" decision is the most recent example of something that appears simple but can go very wrong.

      Historically, the conversion from 68k to PowerPC was with the same vendor, Motorola. The motivation was driven by a substantial increase in performance of the PowerPC over the 68k.

      The conversion from the PowerPC to the x86 was pushed by the lack of investment by IBM in a low power PPC part and attraction to Intel for their commitment to investment. The conversion of MAC to ARM in 2014 will happen in an environment where Intel will make the power/performance/cost difference decision very tough for Apple.

      It would be stunning if Apple did not have ARM prototypes of all MAC flavors and have a good idea of what the issues are in converting MAC's to ARM. Apple has a couple thousand employees dedicated to designing and building their smartphone and tablet ARM products. Those semiconducter employee costs are added to the burdened cost of their ARM chips. The Apple executive leading that group of employees has been lobbying to supply ARM chips to their PC division for years.

      The most likely scenario (my thinking) would be that Apple will continue their x86 product lines but will probably introduce some type of "MAC OS" ARM product and blur the lines between the two product worlds. I doubt they will convert the line at once. The risk/reward ratio is just very high.

      • 2 Replies to alexander.dumbass
      • I could be wrong... I think Apple has 7,000 engineers in the U.S. so the amount of people that you think they have assigned to ARM is overblown if my figure is right.

        I think INTC will be OK especially when you consider who is fabricating those ARM chips.

      • "Apple has a couple thousand employees dedicated to designing and building their smartphone and tablet ARM products. Those semiconducter employee costs are added to the burdened cost of their ARM chips."

        INtel has thousands of employees too...

        "The most likely scenario "

        ARM64...

        "Apple will continue their x86 product lines but will probably introduce some type of "MAC OS" ARM product and blur the lines between the two product worlds. I doubt they will convert the line at once."

        How long did PowerPC stick around when they converted to x86...

    • You call a guy desperate yesterday for saying Intel was targeting a 2014 catch up for phone chips.......yet you post ARM dreams that are in 2015 (servers) and "who knows when, maybe?" (Mac chips."
      Who's eaten up with hatred? You poor sick little man.

 
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