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  • gregory.lynn@rocketmail.com gregory.lynn Nov 23, 2012 10:46 PM Flag

    Broadwell in 2013 now that 14nm roadmap bumped forward?

    Perhaps 14nm is just for Atom, but I find that hard to believe. On a related note, they did say they would be increasing the rate of Moore's law, they never said it would be as quick as this.

    This is a very aggressive move, one I can only imagine is being made to propel Intel ahead of the competition. Single core Medfield is competitive with high end quad core ARM processors already.

    I doubled down on Intel and shorted ARMH this week. I believe I will be richly rewarded.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    • 14nm in 2014, but 22nm "Silvermont" should put an end to the ARM v.s. Intel debate, and 14nm will be the node at which Intel dominates the non-Apple/Samsung markets in tablets and smartphones.

      I am also long INTC and short ARMH.

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      • gregory.lynn@rocketmail.com gregory.lynn Nov 24, 2012 10:26 AM Flag

        Hi Ashraf, I enjoy reading your posts on SA. What do you make of the digitimes report that Intel is rushing development of next gen mobile chips? I don't remember where I read that this meant 14nm was being pushed forward, I just now read the digitimes article which does not mention this at all.

      • 14nm in 2014, but 22nm "Silvermont" should put an end to the ARM v.s. Intel debate, and 14nm will be the node at which Intel dominates the non-Apple/Samsung markets in tablets and smartphones.
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        If you are assuming that Silvermont will have a compelling performance advantage over ARM and thus drive into the broader tablet/phone SoC market then you'll be disappointed.

        You can compare Clovertrail to the A15 over at geekbench. Clovertrail has a slight clock advantage and 2 extra threads yet the A15 has roughly the same integer performance and double the floating point performance. I've seen claims of 50/60% performance increased for Silvermont over Clovertrail, which will be split between IPC, memory IO, clock boost and 4 real threads V 2 real/2 hyper.

        By the time Silvermont is in the market, quad A15's will be common place.

        Its Airmont@14nm that things get really interesting:)

      • When will 22nm Silvermont ship? Q1, Q2, Q3, or Q4 2013?
        Earlier the better, of course!

 
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