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  • paul.ottelini paul.ottelini Dec 4, 2012 3:18 AM Flag

    Results are in for Motorola Razr i comparison.

    THE VERGE
    "We finally have two virtually identical devices, one powered by a "traditional" ARM processor, and the other featuring an Intel chip...

    ...battery life...another area of strength for Intel....

    the RAZR M lasted seven hours and 22 minutes, while the RAZR i lasted a full eight hours and 42 minutes.

    it's clear that Intel's chip is far more frugal with power than the dual-core Snapdragon S4..."

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    • blueredmonk: You have been very focused on benchmarks and, to a degree, they are important. However, almost of the reviews on Razr i have been very positive.

      When it comes to PCs, there is a general feeling that there is too much performance which is not necessary for most users....the argument goes that Intel is overkill and ARM can replace Intel in PCs.

      When it comes to cellphones, the argument is Intel doesn't have enough performance/GPU vis-a-vis ARM. And Intel needs to do a lot more to even make some dent in the market....(of course, Intel will have this higher performance also soon).
      ----

      There are several points you make and they are valid.

      Benchmarking is an important way for us 'geeks' (as someone called me) to evaluate hardware. The reality is you can't trust any vendors numbers (or articles/reviews for that matter) so you have to use benchmarking suites and even then there are serious issues. The best way to benchmark any CPU is to use your own workload:)

      The reality is most people buying a phone don't care about performance benchmarks but OEM's do as it's them who design the phones that the chips go into. So, given the same price for two SoC's, and one was more performant which would you choose? Sure, Intel can reduce it's price...

      Expanding out the OEM point to include Apple, why would Apple Intel switch to Intel given that it's chip is so 'poor' compared to it's own?

    • the RAZR M lasted seven hours and 22 minutes, while the RAZR i lasted a full eight hours and 42 minutes.

      it's clear that Intel's chip is far more frugal with power than the dual-core Snapdragon S4..."
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      You do get something for that loss of an hour and a half. The RAZR M's CPU is nearly 50% faster (on geekbench) while the GPU is nearly 40% better (on GLBenchmark Egypt).

      • 2 Replies to theblueredmonk
      • Snapdragon S4 Krait is much slower on all the javascript benchmarks (i.e. browser speed) than Medfield. I didn't know someone had benched Medfield on geekbench, you have a link ? That 50% figure you are quoting is either the total score or a specific multithreaded test, it certainly isn't the single core integer performance which is what most phone users will most closely associate with speed in most of their apps. You are also implying elsewhere Clovertrail is slower than Apple's A6, again that isn't true for integer performance.

      • Go to intc website and listen to CFO Stacey Smith.
        The Motorola Razr i leads in performance against the Razr M.
        These were the words from Intel CFO.
        He said that leading in performance for Intel based phone was not surprising to consumers which was built exactly the same except for processor. But Intel beating Qualcomm based Razr M was a surprise. And it will only get better for Intel in terms of performance and battery life gaps against ARM based products.

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

 
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