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  • ideal_invst ideal_invst Dec 20, 2012 2:21 PM Flag

    If Clover Trail Z2760 is delayed due to Microsoft certification, how come Acer Iconia W510 with Z2760 is shipping?

    Acer Iconia W510 includes the same Clover Trail...how come Acer is shipping when HP and Dell are being held back for supposed "driver certification".

    The article from ZDNet below (Windows 8 'Clover Trail' tablets delayed until 2013) includes both these pieces of information within a few paragraphs. The same information has been repeated ad nauseam by a ton of these so-called "tech journalists".

    Am I completely missing something? Or did all these journalists fail Logic 101 !!

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    Windows 8 'Clover Trail' tablets delayed until 2013

    The holiday season is usually a great time for PC OEMs, and this one should be doubly so given that it comes hot on the heels of a new Windows release. But a fumble with driver certification means that Santa won't be leaving many Windows 8 "Atom" tablets under the tree.

    It seems that Dell and HP have both pushed back the launch of Windows 8 tablets running Intel's new power-efficient Atom Z2760 "Clover Trail" processor until January. According to InformationWeek, Dell's Latitude 10 and HP's Envy x2 convertible are affected.

    A search of online retails suggests that the only Atom Z2760-powered tablet you can buy right now is the Acer W510, which also appears to be in short supply.

    The Atom Z2760 is a 1.8GHz dual-core x86 CPU built using Intel's 32-nanometer high-k process. The primary feature that it brings to the table is better battery life.

    The problem appears to be down not to the hardware but to drivers. Back in early October it was reported that Intel had yet to deliver power management software for its "Clover Trail" processors to Microsoft for approval. This, according to sources, would likely delay the release of hardware, and according to supply chain sources, it is this delay in getting Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL) certification for the drivers -- required before the hardware can go on sale -- which is behind this latest delay.

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    • Some are pretty convinced.

      According to InformationWeek, Dell (Nasdaq: DELL), Hewlett-Packard (NYSE: HPQ), and other vendors are pushing back the launch of the new tablet lineup due to issues with the new chipset.
      Dubbed "Clover Trail," Intel's Atom Z2760 chip was supposed to improve Surface performance and battery life enough to put it on par with Apple's (Nasdaq: AAPL) venerable iPad. OEMs have not faired well with efforts to bring products to market.
      For example, Dell previously advertised that its Latitude 10 tablet would ship on December 12th, but now expects a shipment date around January 22nd.
      H-P, ASUStek, and Lenovo are also experiencing delays in launching tablets.
      Out of the top five global PC vendors, only Acer is able to release the Clover Trail-based tablet in its W510-1666 model.
      With Windows 8, its all about live tiles. That's where Intel's Clover Trail was expected to excel, with something called Connected Standby. Connected Standby allows that tablet to have a smartphone-like standby mode by staying up-to-date with email, news, weather, and more.
      Shares of Microsoft are rebounding today following a modest dip Wednesday. The stock is up 0.4 percent on the session.

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      • Here is Anand Shimpi's take on the delay. This paragraph is an extract from their review today on Acer Iconia W510 which is a must-read for all Intel longs:

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        Contrary to popular belief, driver problems aren’t what kept the first Atom Windows 8 tablets out of the market at launch. A bug (not related to power management) caught several months ago caused schedules to slip by about a month and a half. Depending on whose design the OEM followed (Intel’s or their own), the implementation of the fix could come quickly or would take a bit longer. In this case, Acer and Samsung found themselves on the right side of the fence. We’ve had Atom based Windows 8 tablets from both companies for weeks now.
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      • Here is Anand Shimpi's (AxxxxTxch) take on the delay. This paragraph is an extract from their review today on Acer Iconia W510 which is a must-read for all Intel longs:

        ===============
        Contrary to popular belief, driver problems aren’t what kept the first Atom Windows 8 tablets out of the market at launch. A bug (not related to power management) caught several months ago caused schedules to slip by about a month and a half. Depending on whose design the OEM followed (Intel’s or their own), the implementation of the fix could come quickly or would take a bit longer. In this case, Acer and Samsung found themselves on the right side of the fence. We’ve had Atom based Windows 8 tablets from both companies for weeks now.
        ====================

      • Here is Anand Shimpi's (AxxxxTech) take on the delay. This paragraph is an extract from their review today on Acer Iconia W510 which is a must-read for all Intel longs:

        ===============
        Contrary to popular belief, driver problems aren’t what kept the first Atom Windows 8 tablets out of the market at launch. A bug (not related to power management) caught several months ago caused schedules to slip by about a month and a half. Depending on whose design the OEM followed (Intel’s or their own), the implementation of the fix could come quickly or would take a bit longer. In this case, Acer and Samsung found themselves on the right side of the fence. We’ve had Atom based Windows 8 tablets from both companies for weeks now.
        ====================

      • Here is Anand Shimpi's (AxxxxTech) take on the delay. This paragraph is an extract from their review today on Acer Iconia W510 which is a must-read for all Intel longs:

        ===============
        Contrary to popular belief, driver problems aren’t what kept the first Atom Windows 8 tablets out of the market at launch. A bug (not related to power management) caught several months ago caused schedules to slip by about a month and a half. Depending on whose design the OEM followed (Intel’s or their own), the implementation of the fix could come quickly or would take a bit longer. In this case, Acer and Samsung found themselves on the right side of the fence. We’ve had Atom based Windows 8 tablets from both companies for weeks now.
        ====================

      • Here is Anand Shimpi's (AxxxxTech) take on the delay. This paragraph is an extract from their review today on Acer Iconia W510 which is a must-read for all Intel longs:

        ===============
        Contrary to popular belief, driver problems aren’t what kept the first Atom Windows 8 tablets out of the market at launch. A bug (not related to power management) caught several months ago caused schedules to slip by about a month and a half. Depending on whose design the OEM followed (Intel’s or their own), the implementation of the fix could come quickly or would take a bit longer. In this case, Acer and Samsung found themselves on the right side of the fence. We’ve had Atom based Windows 8 tablets from both companies for weeks now.
        ====================

      • Here is AnandTech's take on the delay. This paragraph is an extract from their review today on Acer Iconia W510 which is a must-read for all Intel longs:

        ===============
        Contrary to popular belief, driver problems aren’t what kept the first Atom Windows 8 tablets out of the market at launch. A bug (not related to power management) caught several months ago caused schedules to slip by about a month and a half. Depending on whose design the OEM followed (Intel’s or their own), the implementation of the fix could come quickly or would take a bit longer. In this case, Acer and Samsung found themselves on the right side of the fence. We’ve had Atom based Windows 8 tablets from both companies for weeks now.
        ====================

      • Here is AnandTech's take on the delay. This paragraph is an extract from Anand's detailed evaluation of W510 which is a must read for all Intel longs.

        Anand also has a specific mention of Clover Trail's excellent battery life...which Marsavian had posted from the same article.

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        Contrary to popular belief, driver problems aren’t what kept the first Atom Windows 8 tablets out of the market at launch. A bug (not related to power management) caught several months ago caused schedules to slip by about a month and a half. Depending on whose design the OEM followed (Intel’s or their own), the implementation of the fix could come quickly or would take a bit longer. In this case, Acer and Samsung found themselves on the right side of the fence. We’ve had Atom based Windows 8 tablets from both companies for weeks now.

 
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