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  • singhlion2001 singhlion2001 Jan 3, 2013 8:10 PM Flag

    Merrifeld is a 22nm Atom SOC. There are samples and benchmarks

    Intel's mobile/Atom 22nm SOC in market in late 2013 is 2 years behind Foundry/ARM 28 nm shipping now (foundry 28nm and Intel's SOC 22nm has about same transistor density making it a reasonable point of comparison).

    Intel's silicon group has been the biggest hindrance to getting into mobile market.
    Intel's move to finFET has also been a major setback to getting into mobile market. Intel finFET SOC have been talked about for 2 years but are still another 1.5 years away from chips on market. Intel's finFET SOC is late since large delay in moving all the design IP due to issues with transistor matching, analog, RF , and I/O are all not attractive on a bulk finFET SOC vs since at total chip system level intel's 22nm finFET has negligible advantage over foundry 28nm planar transistor.

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    • 'foundry 28nm and Intel's SOC 22nm has about same transistor density making it a reasonable point of comparison'

      No, Intel's 22nm has superior transistor drive/leakage/density advantages over foundry's 28nm. Why do you think all the foundries are scrambling to do finfet technology as well ? It is to catch up to Intel.

      'since at total chip system level intel's 22nm finFET has negligible advantage over foundry 28nm planar transistor.'

      Intel's high performance 22nm process will enable 7W Ivy Bridges, how much better do you think the actual 22nm LP SoC process will be ? You are just making up FUD to support your Short position.

    • Intel's 32nm Clovertrail, kicks ARM 28nm butt. Just check AnandtechDOTcom. 22nm Merrifeld has no competition.

    • Your numbers are batshit crazy.

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      • so what are your numbers?LOL

        few companies using Intel notably as foundry for 22nm do not have any advantages using Intel 22nm over TSMC/Samsung bulk 28nm?
        Means if foundry product requires a full range of transistors (low leakage,RF, quality analog etc.) for a mobile 22nm SOC, that is not offered even for internal intel product until end of 2013. Mobile SOC intel foundry customers thus at a disadvantage compared to tsmc and other foundry.

        I can't think of any way that Intel's 22nm process integration is cost competitive against the foundry cost. Unless the finFET yields at the foundries are really bad ( a possibility since it would be their first generation)

 
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