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  • will_amd_yu will_amd_yu Jan 3, 2013 7:52 PM Flag

    Merrifeld is a 22nm Atom SOC. There are samples and benchmarks

    floating around..

    Are there any TSMC 20nm ARM chips floating around? No way they can do 20nm this year.

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    • Predicting Samsung's arrival at 22 nm is a bit interesting given its rapidly increasing R&D/capital expenditures contrasting its historical struggles. Samsung began 32-34 nm ("30 nm [range]" in Samsung-speak) DRAM mass production in 2011, around the same time it start to pump out its first 32 nm SOCs (albeit in lower quantities). Samsung's 30 nm range node was first sampled in 2009, but problems with NAND controllers delayed commercialization to the present. Samsung sampled 20 nm range (like 22 nm) NAND in Apr. 2010. So if the 20 nm node follows the trend of the 30 nm node, you can expect to see Samsung with 22 nm SOCs in 2013, alongside Intel.

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      • Intel's mobile/Atom 22nm SOC in market in late 2013 is 2 years behind Foundry/ARM 28 nm shipping now (foundry 28nm and Intel's SOC 22nm has about same transistor density making it a reasonable point of comparison).

        Intel's silicon group has been the biggest hindrance to getting into mobile market.
        Intel's move to finFET has also been a major setback to getting into mobile market. Intel finFET SOC have been talked about for 2 years but are still another 1.5 years away from chips on market. Intel's finFET SOC is late since large delay in moving all the design IP due to issues with transistor matching, analog, RF , and I/O are all not attractive on a bulk finFET SOC vs since at total chip system level intel's 22nm finFET has negligible advantage over foundry 28nm planar transistor.

      • 'Samsung began 32-34 nm ("30 nm [range]" in Samsung-speak) DRAM mass production in 2011, around the same time it start to pump out its first 32 nm SOCs (albeit in lower quantities).'

        There were no Samsung 32nm SoCs sold until late 2012.

        'So if the 20 nm node follows the trend of the 30 nm node, you can expect to see Samsung with 22 nm SOCs in 2013, alongside Intel.'

        There will only be Samsung 28nm SoCs in 2013. Samsung is doing 20nm SoCs next and they will not arrive until 2014 at the earliest. Intel's 22nm SoCs will beat them to market and will be superior as they will have better leakage trigate/finfet technology vs Samsung planar.

 
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