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  • coinmaker77 coinmaker77 Jan 23, 2013 2:18 PM Flag

    Hay Jerry Blown I must be sick I purchased some INTC today. I can start to see some upside. I was waiting for CNBC PETE the con man to say sell, but he never did


    Hay Jerry Blown I must be sick I purchased some INTC today. I can start to see some upside. I was waiting for CNBC PETE the con man to say sell, but he never did

    Sentiment: Buy

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    • One interesting area where you and I independently may have some agreement is Pete.

      You use Pete as a contrarian indicator. You sell when Pete says to buy and the reverse. Pete is Mister Optionmonster. He runs an option trading house.

      I contend that Intel is being strongly influenced by option trading. Could easily be Pete and his crew that are involved.

      I like it when Intel trades above the strike prices than below them.

    • I think you are right if I SELL TO OPEN. If I sold a put, the direction of the shares would be toward me and the OMM would buy shares to hedge.

      My example was for me BUY TO OPEN APR $25 puts for $4.15. When I buy them, the OMM would assume that he would likely get shares from me. What does he do with the shares that I "put" to him if he has alread bought shares ? He will end up with twice the number of shares.

      I think you know the point which was that the OMM can be influenced to trade shares. If you have enough juice behind your order, you can encourage the OMM to either BUY or SELL shares. It is much more complex when considering all the months, strike price and open interest.
      oops, you are right alex.

      yes, It is a smart way to influence the pps, and sure you will need some juice to make it happen, just let not forget the preium one has to pay to cause that, but i agree it could and probably works.

      That being said let's say that Intel, in this case comes with sudden good news (wishful thinking here :) ) and many buy the stocks, now the OMM will be stucked with shares he shorted and he will be squeezed like any other guy i guess. I wonder how he can protect/hedge himself against such a scenarion if at all, or will s/he have to accept that risk i wonder.

      • 1 Reply to mystk7
      • I used to have a terrible time with those tests that asked if a picture of a hand was a right or left hand. Puts/calls/buy/sell are worse for me 8-).

        As for the cost to do something like this, I think that it would take a large hedge fund, investor, pension fund, insurance company or .... a much bigger fish than hangs on this board.

        You can sell calls (covered or naked) to pressure down.
        I have seen call spreads where they appear to buy the deep with low premium and sell the shallow with a higher premium.

        All this narrow trading range may also be the preamble of a dividend arbitrage effort. If so, look for HUGE option volume (especially the deep calls) on the coupld days before ex-dividend.

        I have been stalking them for 10 years with moderate success.

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